Steering Truth: A Conversation with Buell Wesley Frazier

Published 2022-01-11
To commemorate the 58th anniversary of the Kennedy assassination on November 22, 2021, The Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza presented a special conversation with former Texas School Book Depository employee Buell Wesley Frazier. Nineteen years old in 1963, Frazier trained fellow Depository employee Lee Harvey Oswald and drove Oswald to work occasionally, including on November 22, 1963. After witnessing the assassination, Frazier was detained and questioned by Dallas police. He later testified at length before the Warren Commission, particularly regarding the package that he observed Oswald carrying that morning.

Signed copies of Mr. Frazier’s autobiography, Steering Truth, are available in the Museum’s online store (store.jfk.org/). To see related films, photos, documents and oral histories from The Sixth Floor Museum's collection, visit our online collections database (emuseum.jfk.org/).

All Comments (21)
  • @user-bu7jl6zy5d
    Of all the people involved in the story of this national tragedy, Mr. Frazier is one of my favorite persons. He was and is a man of integrity, honesty and courage. He also puts the tragedy in its proper context as a puzzle still unsolved. I wish him well.
  • New information and how it falls on the believability scale

    1. That Fritz threatened him and tried to get him to decide a confession. Beleievable. Fritz at one point in his career had "solved" 656 out of 666 murders. Which is absolutely impossible, even with modern forensics, without framing a lot of people. And obviously it is a consideration with the case against Oswald - especially when considering he was kept away from legal assistance, and he was murdered during a police transfer, despite the Dallas Police, the FBI and and Sheriff's Office all receiving threats that Oswald would be killed during that very transfer. Worse still is that the murder happened while Fritz's own plan to protect him was being used. This includeda tight 4 man press around the prisoner. The kill shot only became possible when the designer of this plan - Fritz - broke that formation by a few yards to open the transfer car door - as if no one else could have opened it.

    2. That Oswald was "different", didn't fit in and was made fun of. Believable. Oswald was ,ost likely on the Autism spectrum.

    3. The immaculately dressed man in fedora who put a rifle in the car. Not believable, nor his his story about blocking it from memory until his book. It was an invention used as a hook to sell books. Had there been such a man - he would have stood out like a sore thumb and someone else would have reported him.

    4. Seeing Lee leave from the back. Didn't happen. Lee left from the front and there is a ton of evidence for this.
  • I'm younger than Mr. Frazier yet I remember that day. I was in first grade 7 years old. I remember my teacher crying like she lost something dear to her. My maternal grandparents were living that day, my parents were both alive that day and 3 older siblings were alive that day and our neighbors were directly next door. I list them all because today they are all dead. My father never believed Oswald was in on it alone. Grandpa just puffed on his pipe sitting on the couch saying to my dad “ it's a dead cat on the line somewhere”. At the age of 7yo, I didn't know what that saying meant. We are of Polish descent and grandpa and grandma weren't good at English. But I know today what grandpa meant. He has been dead over fifty years.
  • @tvs3497
    That had to affect Mr. Frazier quite a lot. I, too, doubt the lone assassin theory. I've been to the museum back in the late '90s. I'd like to go back again someday.
  • @ghostsignal
    One interesting detail I caught I was that the TSBD employees didn't know if they were going to be able to go outside and watch the motorcade until that morning. That certainly makes it hard for Lee or anyone else to plan shots from that building, since most of the employees could have been inside at the time of the motorcade passing.
  • @neileddinger6863
    Thank you, Buell Wesley Frazier, for your life of integrity and wisdom and for sharing your honest thoughts and remembrances of that event you were at the center of 68 years ago. I, too, grew up in Dallas and was 15 years old when I saw the President and First Lady arrive at Love Field. Bt the time I got back to school to tell everyone I had seen the President the news of his death had been announced and the buses were lined up to take us home. Nothing since has had as great an emotional impact on me as the events of November 22, 1963 even though, as an adult, I lived only blocks from the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. The assassination of JFK changed everything and nothing will ever be the same again. You and I have had 60 years to ponder the causes and meaning of that event. I think we both have come to realize that it was a conspiracy and, whatever role Lee Oswald might have played, he was not an assassin. When you describe that oak tree at Ruth Paine's house and the delight of your nieces and the other children playing with Lee my heart feels like it will burst. Like you, I still hope that the puzzle will be solved and someday we all will know the truth.
  • I KNEW WESLEY WHEN I WAS A 13 YEAR-OLD BOY...AT THAT TIME I WAS LIVING WITH MY DAD IN IRVING TEXAS,DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM RUTH PAIN!
  • @seank.9764
    Mr. Frazier has been a fixture in TSBD/Oswald lore since the beginning. He has been seen in many interviews over the years including “The Men Who Killed Kennedy” (essential viewing for anyone interested in the assassination). It would truly be a shame to think he would fabricate an element of his story at this point just to sell a book. However, it is a little hard to swallow his “repressed memory” vision of a dapper mystery man with a rifle who nobody else seemed to notice at the time. As we know, Dealy Plaza was teeming with spectators and law enforcement in the chaotic minutes after the shooting. The sighting of Oswald departing through the loading dock is credible and fits an established timeline. Just hard to imagine a “professional” hit man would jeopardize his position in such a careless and brazen manner! I like the old guy and believe his instincts about Oswald, but this is a stretch. He claims he can’t be sure about the validity of the memory. If it’s false, then I suppose I can afford him the benefit of the doubt. If it’s true, then that’s surely one of the most extraordinary things witnessed that day!
  • @electricwally
    What exactly did Buell Frazier mean by "angled parking" in regards to the man with a rifle that he said he witnessed (starting at 26:22)? Was it angled parking as in a remote parking lot to the right as one would view it while walking out of the front of the building (walking out of the TBDB)??
  • @TEXASdaughter
    What make and model of car was it that the man with the rifle got into?
  • @iambobfritz
    This guy is a tragic figure. He was not mentally emotionally robust enough to endure browbeating interviews by Fritz his late memories 50 years later something so enormously consequential is puzzling, best. Still, whatever is motives or memory, he seems like a kind, gentle, simple man.and I wish him the best
  • @DaddyDepression
    That’s an amazing account and very close perspective, he spoke so openly too. What a generous man. May Jah bless him.
  • @Gershwin48
    When this museum is willing to listen to people who don’t hold their viewpoint, I’ll watch these.
  • @40yearoldgum
    Missed opportunities with questions. What type of car. How long, per his recollection was the package? Carcano is 40 inches assembled.
  • @Pihasanddunes1
    Damn, Buell Wesley Frazier himself. Can't help thinking that he and Lee Harvey Oswald are the two most famous order fillers in history.
  • @mkii1964
    There were so many people out front of the TSBD after the assassination I’m curious why I don’t recall anyone else seeing the well dressed man carrying a rifle. You would think there would be motion film or photographic evidence?
  • @mikev4621
    The police searched his room after the shooting and he had a Lee Enfield 303 . One of his teenage after-school jobs was in a curtain rail factory
  • @boztos6025
    As if anyone could reconstruct a step-by-step replay of every moment and sentence from a day 60 years ago…