Why we ditched Daniel Defense - Part 1 (DDM4V7 Review)

Published 2022-03-02

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  • Kyle Rainer
    My buddy owns two DDs and their customer service is unreal. They fixed his MK18 up, gave him a new gas block and barrel for free. There’s no way a company has better customer service than Daniel defense. Just a factor to consider. But I wish they had gieselle triggers that came with their prebuilt rifles
  • jaason101
    I love my Daniel Defense V7. Reliable, tough, and just a great all around rifle.
  • Ghost
    I always built AR's until I bought a DD. The quality on the mk18 I got was incredible. To each their own. Next time I want a good AR i'll just buy another DD.
  • Latin Automatic
    Some good points here. I’m a DD guy, and their M4A1 is still my favorite rifle. The V7 Line isn’t bad, but I think they’re new RISIII line is really going to set the standard and be hard to beat. Are they a little overpriced? Yup. But honestly, I got all of my DD rifles new from authorized dealers for $1,500 - $1,700 street price, which isn’t that bad these days. Their quality is debatably the best, their customer service is the best, and you don’t have to wait 8 months to a year for one of their guns. Not bashing any other rifles though, but DD is top notch as far as standard AR’s go.
  • Brandon Kwon
    I own a DDM4V7 but I also live in Cali, so improving some AR capabilities (suppressors) are pretty limited for me. They’re solid starter rifles for anyone trying to get in to the platform. But for the price tag it’s unfortunate that it comes with a sub par trigger and no back up irons.
  • Steve F
    I really agree with all the points you guys made. Small issues are big issues when you are trying to go premium and still are annoyed about something with the rifle. For that money, the rifle should be your dream gun
  • Most any gunsmith can remove a pinned and welded muzzle device and replace it with nearly whatever muzzle device you want and then pin and weld the new one on. All without doing any damage to the barrel. Also, they've been making suppressors for a few years now.
  • Chris Chero
    You can always build something better a lot cheaper than buying off the rack. Doesn’t matter what you buy. DD makes some of the best barrels and rails in the industry. I bought just the upper (v7lw) with bcg and ambi charging handle with shipping and tax for $1069 and it’s by far the best rifle I have. Buying off the rack the whole rifle I believe is not worth it. But if you can do what I did you can build an entire quality fighting rifle loadout for under 2000. I went with m4e1 lower with a cmc trigger. Lpvo and canted rmr.
  • Leroy Jenkins
    For the prices I’m willing to pay, I only really trust Daniel Defense and FN. Are there other manufacturers that do a better job? Sure! But for the accuracy/precision of the barrels, quality of parts, assembly, QC, and availability Daniel Defense and FN are it for me. I get sub MOA accuracy with match grade ammo so I’m happy.
  • From one 2A content creator to another. Excellent upload. Just built my URGI with a SOCOM556 RC2 SUPPRESSOR and love it so much I also purchased the Super Duty complete as well. The best I’ve owned and shot this far (Subscribed).
  • jesse guy
    FYI the V 7 PRO comes stock with a Geissele trigger, that's the best I've ever shot. And it has a legit muzzle mitigation. Rifle length gas system. You can put an incredible amount of rounds on target with this piece of equipment. One last point: the V7 PRO will get you around 200 ft per sec more velocity. The difference between 2900 FPS and 3100 FPS is significant.
  • Italian Gunpowder
    I've worked in the firearms industry, so ill give you guys a bit of insight to the other side of the counter. DD champions their RISII quad rails because they are legitimately the best 1913 rails on the market. I hear you guys saying "well its too heavy" but thats the point. Those rails are built like tanks. They are designed to be beat to shit and not chip, crack, or lose zero. You dont get that benefit with MLOK. Its the only quad rail system that beat out Knights. Its attachment system to the receiver adds so many additional contact points than most other rails to guarantee its free floating rails that, again, do not lose zero. Regarding triggers: yea their standard triggers suck, but they also offer models with Geissele 3 gun triggers that are phenominal (DDM4V7 Pro models). They're mostly in 18" barrel models which, to be fair, makes sense. DD mostly markets for mil-spec durability and reliability, but they also make a damn good basic competition gun out of the box. Lastly on to their receivers. If you want full ambi, you have a couple options: LMT, Knights, or Radian lowers which is the option you guys went with. 100% full ambi receivers are not a priority for mid/upper-mid tier companies. DD havent done it because they put that money and time in R&D for their RIS III which from their perspective will be far more financially beneficial. They won military contracts when they dropped the RIS II, theres a very good chance they will change the course with RIS III. Not to mention, their customers have been asking for MLOK RIS II way more than they've been asking for a full ambi lower. Why would they prioritize changing their receiver when they know that isnt a priority for their customers over their rail system. Customers cant build RIS II/III rail systems, but they CAN buy a radian lower, pop the pins, and call it a day. I understand where you guys are coming from, but all due respect: the stuff you're complaining about doesnt get solved at your price points. 1500$ isnt cheap for a rifle, but its far from the top of the hill. DD is a one stop shop for a functional, reliable rifle. It isnt a one stop shop for a rifle that caters to every single need. If you want that, you'll have to double the price tag and start looking at LMT, which put DDs to shame in every other aspect if you can afford or find them. This isn't an attempt to 'poor shame' or anything, i sure as hell cant afford an LMT, im simply pointing out that in reality your complaints at your price point isnt exactly realistic or far at this time. maybe in 7 or 8 years the market will expand and these kinds of features on rifles will be standard at the sub-2,000$ mark, but right now that just isnt the case
  • Leonard Massey
    Daniel Defense makes their own high quality suppressors. It's called the DD Wave. Also, if you saw their shot show this year, you'd would have saw they are releasing all their new rifles with complete ambi lowers this summer. They already have ambi lowers on their 30 caliber rifles. Their triggers do need some work...
  • David Bombard
    Thanks for the video, I appreciated hearing your thoughts on some things I hadn’t considered.
  • ComeOnPelican91
    This is a good video. One company gives you a good rail and barrel, the other company gives you a good rail, barrel, muzzle device, and trigger for the same price as the first.
  • Diego Cunha
    I was torn in between a BCM build or buying a DD off the shelf. Went with BCM and never looked back. Fit and finish is awesome and I have ran at least 3500 rounds thru it and never had a issue, plus it shoots steel and brass without any problems. Really happy with my decision.
  • Jake Minton
    The Dd m4v7 does have a 14.5 with the mlok rail as well as a 14.5 with m-lok rail and a lightweight barrel not just the quad rail. As well as 11.5 10.3. They’ve had all those barrels lengths for years. Also DD does make suppressors. But they don’t put the DD Wave muzzle break on any of their rifles for some reason
  • Jake Minton
    I had the chance to pick up a urgi and went with the m4v7 instead. They both have DD barrels mid length. Really the only difference between the two is the rail and the BCG. DD bcgs are more proven, and the Dd gas system is better tuned. The urgi gas port is opened up slightly more bc it’s a clone upper and they opened it for that extra reliability. But they opened it up more than needed IMO. Aside from that. They aren’t much different. I don’t run IR but the Dd rail is just as sturdy with holding zero while being lighter than the geissele. The only thing I think geissele did better than the Dd upper is the muzzle device. But even then I’d rather have a warcomp or a 3 prong instead of a 4 prong. And if running suppressed I’d rather have a muzzle break anyways because it acts as an extra baffle. My buddy has a urgi and just sold it for a m4v7 upper.
  • MrCanaboid
    Had my gunsmith put a sure fire 3 prong on my 14.5 DD, didn’t destroy my barrel and wasn’t too expensive. Also dropped a Gisselle SSA trigger in myself, because there’s no better trigger imho Put a radian raptor, talon safety on there as well. SOPMOD stock and Gisselle 42 h2 buffer spring Happy man here. There will NEVER be a company that makes every component “the best” There’s a reason SOCOM cherry picks there parts for the Block 2 and soon to come block 3. I guarantee you that the RISIII will beat out the URGI at the end of the day in the Block 3. Just saying, also DD barrels are bar none. No such thing as a one stop shop rifle. There’s a reason stoner made it so modular. He knew this .