Nightmare Before Christmas was kinda insane

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Jack is definitely an antivillain. I've always thought if him as a reverse grinch, so obsessed with christmas but his inability to understand it drives him crazy.

As someone who watched all of these stop-motion movies as a kid, Coraline was the only one that actually scared me and I am obsessed with all of them.

“Oogie Boogie didn’t even do anything bad in this movie” Yes, torturing and nearly cannibalising Santa and trying to kill the main characters and taking over the town is perfectly fine.

I understand the "Why is Oogie Boogie the bad guy?" sentiment, but from what I gather he is the darkness that Halloween can bring. He messed with Santa cause it was fun, kidnapped Sally cause it was fun, and is a jerk in general because he likes screwing with people. Jack and the town do it for the sake of Halloween, because that day of the year is all about being scared. It is desired, expected, and has a lot more consent. Mr. Oognelius Boogington wants to strike fear into people's hearts for his own pleasure, not because they want to be scared.

Did any else feel sorry for that poor Easter Bunny who got kidnapped? Also, for about five years, I always dressed up as Sally for Halloween.

Fun fact Disney didn’t originally produce this movie. Tim Burton pitched it to them but they rejected it because they thought it was too scary for their image and it wouldn’t be successful. So Burton produced it with a company named touchstone. Once Disney saw how successful the film was they bought it.

Agreed. Leave it alone, Disney. Just... leave this one, ALONE. No prequel. No sequel. No reboot. This was executed flawlessly, and it will never be matched, let alone superseded. Edit : To address the next person before they go and reply, this is in reference to movie or series format. Yes, there's various ancillary prequel/sequal stuff for all kinds of IP in various media formats, this included. None of which is generally relevant to your average "mainstream fan" of a movie such as NBC. Conversely, any large budget continuation or reboot would most certainly be.

“French Revolution Barbie” needs to become a thing, I laughed way too hard at that 😂

I watch this movie at both Halloween and Christmas. It's rare that you can find a movie that perfectly represents TWO holidays, but this is it!

Let's not forget Catherine O'Hara (Kevin McCallister's mom, Moira Rose) has RANGE! She sings and voices multiple characters in this!

as an adult, I do prefer to watch animation, cuz they somewhat are more creative than live-action one. So many emotion expression can be exaggerated, which is better for me. And thank you for your dedication to movie and reviewing in such a creative way. :face-red-heart-shape:

I feel like Jack's line of "leave that no good Oogie Boogie out of it" is the most important line for him as a 'good guy' because if he didn't say that the audience would assume Jack would know the kids would take Santa there and didn't care until the end when he had a change of heart.

Fun fact: the actress who plays Sally also plays the mom from the first home alone movie

I don't know if you're into music theory at all, but this film actually dabbles in it a little, with every time Jack sings, and when Sally sings. There's what's called the Phrygian stank note that they both hit when they sing. It's basically a note that sounds slightly off from the rest of the notes being sung in a lyric. You can hear it in Jack's lament, and Sally's song. It's used to show their connection, even on the most basic musical level.

I guess you could say Boogie didn't do anything bad if you forget that he tried to boil Santa and Sally alive

Jack is so moved by Christmas it’s sweet. We’re suppose to see his ability to want to expand and try to be something more then scary and creepy. But he fails cuz it’s not his nature not what he was made for. But I think him going through this ordeal made him a deeper character with the ability to understand something a little softer then his world. Which is shown by him backing off and realizing he is doing harm and not creating joy.

Fun fact, Oogie Boogie was originally supposed to be Dr Finkelstein in disguise. The idea to make him a bug came late in development

The thing about Oogie Boogie is that Halloween is actually pretty wholesome to the citizens of the town. They sing "that's our job, but we're not mean". None of them are actually dangerous and they're just trying to have a good time. It says a lot however that Oogie doesn't live in town with the rest of them. He lives far away underground and only his minions can reach him. It's implied he's been banished by Jack and is only allowed to come out on Halloween like we see in the opening. His brand of horror is dangerous and, in his few minutes of screentime, he nearly killed Sally and Santa just for his own amusement. This wasn't his first warning and it's why Jack ruthlessly finished him off.

Honestly, Jack being the villain is pretty much how I always saw it. He's definitely an ironic villain as everything he's doing is coming from a desire to do something happy and nice. Which is the base moral of the story. Jack is the best at doing Halloween things, and he should stay in his lane. Despite his best intentions he puts Santa in danger and ALMOST ruins Christmas. That's where the line is as far as true villainy, Oogie wants to do bad things because he doesn't care about what happens. Jack at least has remorse and sees he was being reckless and selfish.