4 Over 7 Polyrhythms - Advanced Drum Lessons

this is polymetric not polyrhythmic. a polyrhythm is two different CONSTANT rates of notes played at varying speeds over the SAME duration. So playing 4 quarter notes evenly spaced on one limb while the other limb is playing 7 quarter notes on the other limb evenly spaced only at a faster tempo.

these are among my favorite polyrhythmic grooves...if you set it up in a certain way, it gives you this "I'm on the downbeat, I'm on the upbeat" vibe

Reading some of these comments is why I choose to only play drums by ear. You guys turn drumming into a redundant numeric unappealing math equation! I much prefer making drumming fun and enjoyable. You guys have fun figuring out whether its 'truly' 7 over 4...I'll keep loving playing drums

Like said in some comments, it's a 4/4 over 7/8 polymeter, not a 4-7 polyrhythm. A x over y polyrhythm means a main pulse of x notes and a "sub-pulse" of y notes in only ONE bar. We should have heard quarter notes over septuplets here (which is much tougher to play...). It's a common mix up but it's kind of a pity to see this on such a channel ;-)

So awesome. Thanks for being so clear!

Dave, your videos are my favourite! Good stuff!

Finally, something challenging from these guys! Sorry if I sound like an arrogant douchebag, but the advanced lessons these guys post are all I really watch for.

Thanks so much for all your videos. Very professional. Very helpful. Very well explained. Your polyrhythm videos have helped me heaps.

my fave so far. lovin' these!!!! ahhhh!!!

These little explanations about the details like why he counts "se" instead of seven and the way he counts with the left foot helps us to really understand how his mind works and how we can really do these more complex lines.

This is a POLYMETER!

very well explained ! I love it! greetings from austria !

I don't play drums, but I've listened to a lot of irregular time signatures and polyrhythms in breakcore. Because of this, I kinda feel like I'm obligated to learn this. Thanks a lot for videos such as this.

Men, your videos had help me a lot!! Thanks and keep on!!

Although I don't play drums this has really helped me get familiarised with polyrythems. Nice video

I think we can assume that everyone gets that this video is polymetric and not polyrhythmic. That said, playing a true four against seven polyrhythm is not that hard (if I can do it, anyone can). You just have to subdivide your bar into 28 fast (say, sixteenth) notes. The four rhythm plays the first note of every group of seven- that is, 1, 8, 15, and 22. The seven rhythm plays the first note of every group of four- that is, 1, 5, 9, 13, 17, 21, and 25. They come together again on the 29th note, which is the 1 of the next bar. Draw a picture and try it slowly. Sounds complicated, but it's not really. If anyone wants to hear what a fairly complex polymeter (not polyrhythm) sounds like, check out this 12 against 47 piece for double harp: https://soundcloud.com/scott-wallace-189088488/oops cheers from rainy Vienna, Scott

Your explanations have gotten significantly better. In your early videos you tend to go too fast, but you've gotten way better at breaking things down.

this dude is a good instructor. super easy to follow.

Awesome lesson!

Thanks for this video. Generally I use a Roland 808 and I've been working real hard to actually play my odd signatures on the real drums. I'm not so quick with sticks, I'm a bassist and keyboardist (mostly analog polysynth). I won't use my leg to count, I'd get all bruised up. But you have clarified some hand and limb problems. I've been looking for this very lesson, and no one I know that could help me- has one iota of what I mean. Cause I hate that one and a two and e and all that shit. I don't play my bass for example counting like drum teachers, that'd throw me off my actual notes I'm playing. Thanks again!!! This.