How The Fifth Element REALLY Ended (According To Science)

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They collected the stones, they professed their love, and blasted the evil planet before it had a chance to destroy the Earth. But… did they? I decided to nerd out and do the math and see what would actually happen if the 6th largest moon in the solar system was left hovering at the edge of space. Spoilers: it’s very, very bad.

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www.omnicalculator.com/physics/sphere-density
thesolarsystem.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_natural_sat…
www.wired.com/story/could-the-moon-actually-crash-…
www.floodmap.net/
www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Space_Science/Hubb…
arstechnica.com/science/2021/02/astronomers-a-come…
www.pbs.org/video/pbs-space-time-moon-majoras-mask…
slate.com/technology/2014/05/close-encounter-what-…

TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Intro
1:10 - Plot Speedrun
2:56 - The President's Men
3:56 - The Density Question
5:40 - Gravitational And Tidal Effects
8:05 - Roche Limit
9:44 - Scenario One
15:10 - Scenario Two
17:15 - Sponsor - Fac

All Comments (21)
  • @Big.Rik_
    "so important they dressed her in seatbelts to keep her safe" is pure gold🏆
  • In the real ending, Rocky and Bullwinkle zoom up to the Great Evil and apply a coat of "upsidaisyum", which counter acts the effect of the gravity.
  • @moonasha
    80s and 90s sci fi movies had so much damn soul. 5th element. The Abyss. Terminators. Blade Runner. Matrix. Robocop. Starship Troopers. They really just don't make them like they used to...
  • @JonCoutu
    So you’re saying The Fifth Element wasn’t the documentary I thought it was?
  • @theCodyReeder
    I kinda hate the "things start floating when the moon gets close" trope. That's not how gravity works! Things would only be pulled off of the earth if the thing coming in has a density greater than earth. Things will get lighter for sure, but unless it's solid iron or denser. the earth is going to win that tug of war. The equation for the Roche limit includes a term for the relative density of the objects. If you work it out you will see that the Roche limit for the denser body will always be inside the lower density body. Meaning they will crash into each other before objects start to be pulled off. Its not the strength of gravity that matters. In the case of the sun the gravity is stronger than earths but if the earth was crashing into it the whole earth would be in free fall. The only gravity that would be felt is the difference in the strength from one side of earth to the other and that would easily be overcome by earth's own gravity. If the outer layers of the sun didn't vaporize the earth. The earth would keep falling, intact until it got close enough to the sun's core that the overall density is higher than earth's. Earth is pretty dense in fact it has the highest density of all large bodies in the solar system so an object that has a higher density, especially with a density high enough to pull objects from significant range is a big ask. It would have to be a stellar remnant or something. Eh, maybe it is. It is fiction after all.
  • @maxximmc
    Ruby Rod's screaming over the disaster footage sent me rolling 😂🤣
  • @johno812
    Joe Scott, there were two critical details that you missed at the beginning. 1. “Mr. Shadow” was not coming here to impact the planet. He was coming to destroy all life in the universe. 2. He was supposed to stand in the same place as the 5th element and instead of sending out the beam that creates life, he would create the “anti-life” beam. These two critical points mean that if they were going to continue with this plot. “Mr shadow” who could bring mass in from his realm to be created; would have the ability to change his mass and size. To hold true to the story line, he would have had to have been decreasing his mass so that he could stand in the center of the other 4 elements. Even the last image makes him look like a much smaller version of his original self. When I watched the movie the first time when it came out. Those details were clearly not addressed; and I figured 62 miles was too close. But since this space traveling civilization was not concerned; you can assume they have done the calculations of its current mass and position and don’t see it as a problem. That being said, almost every science fiction movie and series gets “space” and physics wrong. The Expanse was probably the most accurate out of all of the TV series and Movies that I have seen. I was kind of glad that 5th element didn’t get too much into the science or technology; just how people who lived in it changed their culture. Which is why I still love watching this movie. What I love is that they thought we would have anti-gravity cars; and faster than light travel. But no personal “smart phones”. Remember Zorg’s office still had the secretary and the phone with the different lines? Remember, Zorg’s hit man had to use a pay phone to call? Corbin even was notified he was fired and won the sweepstages through a futuristic vacuum tube delivery service. No email, no text, no pagers, no digital media. This is what nearly all science fiction writers get wrong; they always think our current communication and Information Technology remains stagnant while we discover new physics and engineer the impossible. AI, VR, AR, and implants development could make for a much more amazing and compelling story. We could radically change how we interact with each other long before we solve gravity and FTL. I would love for you to explore that in one of your episodes.
  • @Luke-ow9ku
    Evil floats, its why they used to throw witches in the river. The greatest evil has the least density. It stopped at the Karmen line because its floating at the edge of the atmosphere.
  • @zincer2
    Fun fact, the main antagonist (zorg) and the protagonist (Corbin Dallas) never actually meet each other, the closest they get was when Corbin was leaving the cruise ship and was feet from Zorg, but they never saw each other
  • Also, speaking of Bruce Willis, if you made a video about FTD, I would probably cry. My father was diagnosed within 2019 and it's the most vile awful damning disease anyone could really have
  • @matd675
    7:18 This wouldnt happen. Even if "Mr Shadow" was sitting on your head, Earth's surface gravity would still be stronger than Mr Shadows. No-one would be flying anywhere.
  • @veenoir1991
    "She's so important, they dressed her in seat belts to kep her safe." Best Joe line ever.
  • @brandonr.2807
    One of the all time best movies. Can't count the number of times we would catch part of it on TBS or TNT and immediately stop flipping channels and watch. So good.
  • I like how you "FIXED" the ending to an uplifting movie about love and happiness and gave us the destruction and mayhem we were all hoping for. Joe, you never disappoint... keep being you! LOL
  • What you meant to say and show @5:10 was, "The diameter is 1931 km. We use the radius, which is (1931 km)/2 = 965.5 km. We cube the radius and then multiply by (4/3)*pi to get the volume, which is 3.77 x 10^9 km^3. We convert the assumed density to kg/km^3 (to match the km^3 in the calculated volume), which gives 3.346 x 10^12 kg/km^3. Now we multiply the volume times the density, and we get 1.26 x 10^22 kg for the mass." You got the right answer, but there are so many typos, side steps, and shortcuts, that I gave up on trying to annotate in the corrections. And yes, I'm proud to have been nerd sniped, if that was your goal!
  • @mindshelfpro
    The 5th element is one my favourite movies of all time. I love to watch it over and over.
  • @brianbeswick
    Wouldn’t the dark planet also exert a gravitational pull on the moon for a short period before it impacts in both scenarios? Pulling the moon out of its orbit and eventually past the Roche limit and causing a second impact on the magnitude of Thea?
  • You've spent time on this, and I'm guessing it's because it brings you joy. If it makes you happy, then it's time well spent, not wasted. I find it fascinating to ponder all these things and figure them out. I prefer it when my sci-fi and fantasy stories follow scientific principles instead of breaking them. I think this is my favorite video of your so far. Thank you.
  • I love when I’ve hardly made it through a Monday, and at the end of the day I get to unwind to one of your videos 😊