Destiny 2 Lore - Is there something alive out in the void? Child of The Old Gods & the Briar Binds

“When you whisper to the void…does it whisper back?” Rahool has asked this forever. Whenever he asks, his tone is earnest, inquisitive, and somewhat playful. I always understand his question as a means to check in on me and see if I finally heard what he has, or, more likely, what he hasn’t.

I really love the idea that Void is the absence of matter, meaning it is still connected to matter and could not exist without or with

Yes, it's called The Man in The Wall.

love lore vids that arent just about what is happening now and whats happening next. plz explore the edges of the lore more.

I was waiting for you to mention Ikoras quest "Into the Abyss" and her mentioning how the void speaks to us. Stick with me here, this is a bit of a long one. Each subclass got a new Quest line from ikora During the season of the deep I believe. The void one is called into the abyss. It requires you to do a bunch of different things To better understand the subclass. Now there's a certain point where ikora will send you to do a lost sector, And tell you to come back to her with an exotic you get from there. Is different depending on which class you use. But when you bring that exotic back to ikora she says directly and I quote 'Ikora holds the strange object you found on nessus. "Does it also whisper to you?" She gives you a faint, knowing smile. " Fear is a natural response to the unknown. But in time, the Void's voice will become familiar to you." BOI IF THAT DONT SET OFF RED FLAGS I DONT KNOW WHAT DOES

I’ve always seen Void as deeply connected with gravity. Some of our void abilities literally pull enemies into them. Dark matter gets its name from the fact that it doesn’t interact with light and we know that it exists because of how it interacts with gravity. Gravity interacts with all matter equally. It pulls everything together, and when you pull enough matter together you get a black hole. Something that it is so strong in its affect of gravity that even light cannot escape. The design of the child of the old gods reminds me a lot of a galaxy and at the center of it is a mini black hole. When you have a void soul and an arc soul at the same time, the arc soul will orbit around the void soul. Maybe in a similar way to how the nine are sentient dark matter, the old gods are sentient black holes? Although if they truly are “the old gods” then that would make no sense because black holes are a result of existence. So maybe the old gods existed before the creation of the universe, in the void around the singularity and the center of the Big Bang. Maybe black holes are the old gods pulling matter in so that they can return to the universe to a state of non existence/the singularity. I feel like this theory contradicts kinda contradicts itself at points though

Interestingly Nezarec has power over the and that when he died (which he mentions that he's done before) Savathûn using a curse (likely using The Veil and possibly an early version of Strand) prevent him from dying and ressurecting in such a manner. It should also be noted that Void doesn't mean nothingness. Void energy and light comes from a hidden layer of the universe that creates and encapsulates much of the empty space in the cosmos. Stuff like dark matter, dark energy, gravity, negative mass, zero point energy, imaginary/virtual particles, quantum foam, and such . Very primordial and founding interactions that gave way to all other forms of physical existence. We learned that beings of dark matter exist like The Nine or sapient electrical currents like the Arcborn in the setting. t would not surprise me if eldritch, primordial intelligences exist in the fabric of spacetime itself. Strand and the Darkness also show us the Destiny universe seemingly has some form of panpsychism.

So much of the old grimoire inspires that feeling of wonder that Destiny used to have.

The light trio is I see it is this: Solar: energy and existence. Arc: the connection between existence and nonexistence. Void: the power of non existence in an environment of physicality: dark matter. Rock paper scissor. Something cannot exist without nothing. Nothing cannot exist without something. And neither can exist without being connected.

I will always remember that hunter that talked about the void in the old missions to recover the old subclass talking about how the void is something to be respected and careful with, like if there is something in it that is lending/allowing to tap into it's power and if you ever get into their bad side, you may not come out alive from your walk

PROUD TO BE A VOID WARLOCK MAIN.

The Void light being itself sentient fits nicely into light and dark symmetry going on such as Solar and Stasis being reflections as "Energy" and "Entropy". Strand is the reflection of Void (assuming the colour theory chart), Strand being "The connection of all living consciousnesses" makes sense that its Void reflection is "Individual non living consciousnesses"

Interestingly, some say that Void is as alive as Arc and Solar Light. But Strand is as alive as the Void. But some view the Void as a polar opposite to Strand; one is about a the absence of anything, the other is about consciousness and connection. Solar is about warmth, and lively energy, while Stasis is about the halting of energy. It makes you wonder, what the Darkness opposite of Arc is.

I think that the idea of the void being hungry may be related to the concept of true vacuum, in which it would perpetually expand, ending the universe by complete obliteration. You could say that that kind of void is relentlessly hungry

There should be a new vanguard division created to monitor guardians that use the void too much.

THIS is a proper Byf video. I don't mean to say that this other videos lack substance or aren't worthy of his reputation. But this video really just covers some of the world of Destiny. This is the type of topic which really enchanted me when I first discovered and binged his content. Lightfall really did no favors with lore, besides only singular tidbits with no further explanation or reasons to explore. But this video is just very refreshing. It's not about current or past events, or future speculation. It's just reporting, and some ideas about what the things in common could imply. Not to mention the classic D1 music. Usually when I click on a Byf video, I hope it goes something like this, but I do enjoy all his content the same. This video in particular, was very refreshing.

The void almost makes me think of the nothingness before existence, the Winnower, the Gardener, and what might have come before them. Makes you wonder if they will further expand on the void after the final shape.

The interesting bit about the Void is that it may not be an exclusive Light Element as some may claim, as it is stated to be something that dwells between that of Light and Dark, and we see that Nezarec is someone who masters the Void too. and in the Nightstalker lore tab said that the Void can be something both literal and metaphorical. that is a neat bit.

If there's one thing the idea of an unknowable hungry creature that wants to devour puts me in the mind of, the Aphelion. It's also of note that the Aphelion's known to appear moments before an NLS jump. (Bamberga from the Dreaming City lore book.) An NLS jump uses and NLS drive, a "propulsion system bends space around your ship, giving it the punch needed to transfer between planetary orbits." (NLS Dive in-game description.) Bending space certainly sounds like void stuff, and we know light can be manipulated by technology. (Borealis lore tab, amongst other stuff.) It's not unthinkable that the Aphelions are the Old Gods, or at the very least related.

Void sounds more like a description of dark energy, which theoretically speeds up the expansion of the universe. We have no clue what it is, but one explanation for it is that it's intrinsic to empty space . Dark matter would slow down expansion (like any other matter) because it has mass. We also have no clue what the hell it is, but it's totally different from dark energy.