Do Spacecraft Really Have To Endure The Hazards of Reentry

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Published 2023-12-30
An extended answer to a question I keep seeing - can spacecraft avoid the furious heat of reentry by slowing down before reaching the atmosphere, or, but flying above it until slow enough to avoid it.

The footage is from the Artemis 1 mission reentry.

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All Comments (21)
  • @oberonpanopticon
    There’s one solution you’ve missed: Using the mega maid to remove earth’s atmosphere entirely, thus solving the problem of reentry!
  • @Zeecontainers
    That reentry video always gives me a strong sense of relief and appreciation for the safe embrace of earth. Even compared to ending up alone in the middle of the ocean, which is normally considered an exceedingly horrible and deadly situation, it's a warm, protective and comfortable bosom compared to space's sheer hostility to life.
  • @theevermind
    Is reentry really necessary? If I went to space, I would insist on coming back, so yes, it's necessary.
  • There was one professor in the early days of Apollo that explained you could use rockets to overcome gravity to slowly deorbit but the amount of fuel was more than what it took to get to orbit. So, a heat shield was more efficient, less cost, less massive. His sketches showed multiple rockets pointing towards earth center and rockets slowing the spacecraft down to match earth’s rotation, then allowing the ship to slowly descend! Fuel requirement was enormous.
  • @benjaminhanke79
    You make watching YouTube more efficient by presenting two videos at the same time.
  • @schmodedo
    Although I had seen it before, I appreciate you leaving the re-entry video up as you narrated. The vortex of superheated gases behind the capsule is mesmerizing.
  • @soffici1
    Fantastic footage and an excellent explanation for what’s going on. Thank you, Scott A bit of trivia about the L/D ratio for airliners: the B767 has 12 (they discovered it during the Gimli glider incident, go check it out), while the Airbus flock tend to have around 15 (yes, even that monstrosity known as the A380). The B747 and 777 also have around 15, while the original B737 was supposed to have 17 (highly doubt that, but hey). The B787 and B777X are at 20! Except the B767’s, which was actually found out by accident, the rest are all theoretical, so I wouldn’t count on them if were to have a total loss of power on all engines anywhere far from an airport safety cone. Gliders are on another planet. The first plastic gliders of the 1960s had around 32-35 at relatively low speeds, while more modern ones like the Nimbus 4 have a manufactured-declared L/D of 60+. Recently manufacturers have stopped publishing the “polar curve” of the gliders they make, so we don’t exactly know their design performance with the seams level of detail, but I’d guess is not very far from 50 to 55. The major improvement on previous iterations lies in the speed at which they obtain those L/D ratios, given by the much higher wing loading of modern gliders (55+ kg/sqm vs 30-35kg/sqm for the 1960s ones) Still not useful for atmospheric reentry Happy 2024
  • @scottwatrous
    I feel like I'm in a capsule returning from the Moon and Scott Manley is on the intercom just rambling on and on about re-entry physics while I'm trying to enjoy this moment.
  • @dallasangler
    Being utterly mesmerized by the parachutes interplay at the moment of splashdown "sparked joy" in this heart. Thanks Scott.
  • @dgkcpa1
    Talked to a person who worked on the US X-15 rocket plane program (1959-1968). They considered putting the X-15 into orbit, but none of their pilots could fly the re-entry profile on the simulator without burning up. A non pilot member of the program asked if he could try re entry on the simulator, and they let him. He succeeded, and was able to repeat the manuever again and again. Everyone wanted to know how he was able to succeed where others could not. Simple, he said, he watched the temperature guage. If the X-15 got too hot, he pulled up; when it cooled down he let the plane descend. He did this over and over, and showed that winged reentry from orbit was possible. The X-15's glide ratio was about 4 to 1. Constructed of inconel X alloy. An ablative coating was tried on the X-15, but was found to be unsatisfactory, and actually interferred with the plane's natural ability to disapate heat.
  • @prjndigo
    Short answer: it keeps space clean and free of as many bodies as possible. Long answer: the amount of thrust it would take to actually bring an object back in without a Dynamic Entry is roughly equivalent to half the thrust it took to put something up there but then you have to add thrust to putting the object and its return rocket up there. So for what's basically two tons of refined high-tech terracotta you can cut the price of the trip in half and look ballsy doing it.
  • I want more of these refutations of common "Why dont they just do X" I love your content Scott, followed you since the early days of KSP, I remember being hyped every single time you released a "100% reusable space program" video because your solutions to things were so creative.
  • @JarrodFLif3r
    I am amazed by the 'skipping' of Orion. The calculations to figure that out are truly incredible.
  • A simpler way to explain it is that as soon as you begin any form of braking in space, you will drop below orbital velocity and begin to fall into the atmosphere. The two suggested methods by non-rocket scientists to slow down before re-entry would only result in the same immediate re-entry that they say they want to avoid.
  • @frankgulla2335
    Scott, what a great talk. I don't know how many stayed with you, but since I teach an engineering Thermo-Science lab,I was with you every step of the way. Great Job.
  • @StreuB1
    A skipping rock on a pond is one of the best visual analogies to reentry that I ever heard. Really helped me understand and visualize it after that.
  • @brucewatt1032
    I never saw that re-entry footage before - my goodness, how amazing is that?!?! Thanks for going through the details of re-entry Scott, you answered all my questions on that topic in one short, concise and easy-to-understand video.
  • @tlrmatthew
    This just blows my mind. I already understand that re-entry is a rough experience to go through but the mathematical knowledge that is understood about it is just beyond me. The way Scott talks about it, although i don't understand the most of it leaves me in awe of how much understanding there is about the subject. How much Scott must put in as regards research & actually understanding then making it into such high quality videos is amazing.
  • @brandenjones716
    I remember trying to watch the reentry video and getting bored and didn't finish it but , just having you talk over it made it so much more enjoyable for my brain to watch , you should do this format more often. It really works. Ty