Key points that summarize the basic teachings of Gothardism.

As one who has attended multiple seminars including thee basic, the advanced, the counselling and the financial freedom seminar and having hosted many of these seminars, I can testify that it has changed and blessed my life, my marriage, my family and church profoundly and the lives of many that I have known over the past almost 40 years.

This is interesting. I remember fellow pastors and Christian leaders in the 70s took their families to Gothard. They all came back fired up, and weird. In a few months it wore off. I was a young pastor in those days, but I questioned what people came home thinking.

As long as we are on planet earth there will be heresy, and the gospel constantly/ continuously repeats itself!📖🕊✝️🙏🏽🌅

I remember seeing a video of her reviewing a book and its author. The book was about biblical theology, and they were discussing contrasts between that and systematic theology.

I attended the Basic conferences as a teen. It wasn’t until I was in my 30s and 40s that I was taught the reformation, the church fathers and the distinction between law and gospel. Gothard is all law.

The funny thing is that most of the Gothard families that I knew were really run by the Mother. The Gothard people knew this as when they did their check-ups on the family, it was mostly the mother that they talked to.

Off the subject… what about Asbury ‘revival’?

'The Ballad of the Judas Tree' In Hell there grew a Judas Tree, Where Judas hanged and died; Because he could not bear to see His master crucified. Our Lord descended into Hell And found his Judas there, Forever hanging on the tree Grown from his own despair. So Jesus cut his Judas down And took him in his arms. "It was for this I came," he said, "And not to do you harm. My Father gave me twelve good men And all of them I kept, Though one betrayed and one denied Some fled and others slept. In three days' time I must return To make the others glad, But first I had to come to Hell And share the death you had. My tree will grow in place of yours, Its roots lie here as well: There is no final victory Without this soul from Hell." So when we all condemn him As of every traitor worst-- Remember that of all his men, Our Lord forgave him first.

I don't listen to anyone. I pay attention and learn from direct experience.

Bad theology must be revealed. I Peter 5

That is all garbage

This is so old news. Move on

Alissa is running out of heresy to hunt down.

Gothard’s teaching is just one example of how we humans want to package God’s word into a nice tidy box. So we come up with systematic theologies that do that. There are a lot of good things that we can learn from systematic theologies, but there can also be errors. When there are errors, they can become so entrenched that they become dividing lines that really shouldn’t be there. I think a solution to this problem is to stick with the truths that all the systematic theologies agree on, that all Christians agree on. Those would be things like, Jesus’ death on the cross satisfied God’s justice and wrath toward sin. Or that Jesus was God incarnate. But when one set of systematic theologies claim one thing, while another set claim something completely different, then I say we should hold off on making either a condition of membership or a requirement for leaders. For example, one large swath of Christians believe that God elected one group of people to be saved, and another to be damned, and that that election had nothing to do with any choice or disposition of people because people do not have libertarian free will. Another large swath claims that people and their choices have something to do with their salvation. That people have been given free will at some point, and their salvation is contingent on some decision(s) they made at some certain point. Because we do not have universal agreement on this issue, we as the Church should refrain from writing our positions on such controversial issues into our doctrinal statements. Otherwise we may be found insisting on belief in something that is in error. This is what happened with Gothard’s teachings, and it DID divide Christians unnecessarily.