The chances of getting into an Ivy League university are higher than you think.
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Published 2023-11-18
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Some very valid points, but I think a lot of the numbers/stats chosen are a bit optimistic
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Im impressed that you only have 43 subs, this video has 14 likes, and only 304 views, but this video is actually really high quality and provides important information. Thanks, and I'm subbing for sure
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Very nice video, thats a good point that most applicants are sending out more than 1 application. I bet there's a creditable survey somewhere based on the average number applications per applicant.
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this has already been said but great video! very happy to have come across this
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Watching this even though I matched with QB last week, but, you've also got to consider declining birth rates in the U.S. post 2008. The people graduating in the next few years will have less domestic competition due to there simply being less graduates. Acceptance rates are also deflated by marketing, shot gunning, and TO admissions policies. As a side note, QB finalists will likely have better overall chances of matching due to the overturning of affirmative action. Colleges will probably start looking to QB/other similar programs for diversity. This year saw a lot of schools dramatically increase their QB match rate, particularly MIT, which jumped from around 12 matches last year to 60-70 this year. The ivy plus school I matched with accepted ~30 more of us this year. Hopefully, match rates and general acceptance rates will increase.
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Good video and subscribed! I thought you were going to go with the combinatorics of the situation. As many people know, if you are at a party you can often make easy money by betting that two people there have the same birthday at favorable odds. The chance is much higher than it seems, because there are more positive combinations that most people realize. The trick is that you don't care who the two people are. The same is sort of true of admissions. This is quite difficult to quantify, because the events are correlated but not well correlated. In other words, you might get into Harvard but not Yale. Someone else who is just like you has the opposite happen, but it is not for any identifiable reason whatsoever. It's just luck. Luck plays a big role when admissions officers are looking at 5 candidates who are all of very equal merit. Situations like this make the chance of hitting one or more top tier admissions much more likely that it seems, as long as you apply to many and regard any admission as a "hit.". If you watch admissions reaction videos, you see this all the time. Ivy day comes and someone gets 4 rejections, 3 wait lists, and an admission to Princeton. That is almost certainly not even close to a reproducible result.
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But on the other hand, you have people like legacies and athletes which have higher consideration and take up a significant amount of the class space
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It actually makes me more confident
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Yo that’s crazy amazing video
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Great video!
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Few things: You are taking a lot of the data provided at face value. The 3/4 of applicants being "actually qualified" is a vague statement thst is made by only 1 university. Secondly you need to account for the fact that the distribution of applications and distribution of repeat applications is not the same. Lastly, even post-affirmative action demographics and especially socioeconomic status play a huge role in admissions chances, since test optional admissions have made it even more ambiguous on what a "qualified applicant" even is
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Ok so as a preface I go to Dartmouth and i’ve sorta seen the sort of student gets in and there’s a few things u didn’t think about. First, a tonnnnnn of kids get in early decision (which likely means did apply many places) the other problems are fair and i agree but legacy is much more significant than they like to let on, also they hold spots so they can say they have students from all 50 states and x countries and then they recruit athletes on top of that (well over 100 students each class if i had to guess).
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This video was amazing! could you do do this with uc schools?
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Watching this even though I'm only in my second year of middle school😂
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interesting way of looking at it. But after u take out the 1/4 bad applicants, the 20% is pretty low for all the qualified applicants.
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You think I can still get in an Ivy League even tho early action has already passed
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The video is beneficial but not for students ;) for everyone it's better to apply early action - test application competitiveness, then according to it target few ivies - app fee is harsh but 1 time you can afford it. So generally everyone logical being would apply, regardless of sequential and bright insight of your video, thus having 0 effect on them. This video could help some managers or statistical people far after graduation. Your intuition is somewhat inaccurate if you will divide (applicant pool\applications) by (applications per applicant). You assume as soon as 1 guy will get into his dream school he won't bother others. But it's only relevant for Early Action (if he gets in he won't apply regular action). If a strong applicant will apply to all ivies during regular actions he will take slots of many - every ivy will have to admit him - lowering space for others anyway. I'm writing that shit because I'm an idiot wasting time.
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what makes a qualified student
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Your stats and math are all pretty good, but I feel like the concept here is perpetuating a harmful stereotype. If you are applying to college to go to the Ivy League, you are treating the college process wrong. First of all, the Ivy League schools don’t strictly refer to the best schools anymore, as the term Ivy League just refers to an old sports league. And secondly, even if this was about “top 20 schools” instead, that’s still a terrible metric. The best school for me will look absolutely nothing like the best school for someone else, so the rankings mean pretty much nothing. I know you recognize this, because you mentioned it for point 4, but I still think this perpetuates the myth of ivies being some end all be all of education. Let me repeat, nothing against you or the work you did, I just think it’s appealing to the “I’m going to apply to all ivies and nothing else because they are the best” crowd, which just isn’t too healthy.
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Amazing vid.