Trope Talk: Sequels

Published 2020-05-01
Oh, no. That movie I liked is getting a sequel. Will it be good, or will it make me retroactively dislike the thing I used to like? And why is it always such a close call?! Let's DISCUSS BABY

Favorite or least favorite sequel? Yell about it in the comments!

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All Comments (21)
  • @ZanahoriaBaila
    "I don't know why writers love having their kid heroes grow up to be terrible parent, but I'm sick of it" I FELT that.
  • @maximillion322
    As a wise man once said: “a good sequel leaps off of the original, whereas a bad sequel wallows in it”
  • @henrywall2338
    "and where the hell is Sokka?" he died and was reincarnated as Callum in The Dragon Prince
  • @MayaParker01
    I like how legend of korra made toph's bad parenting make sense because she was very sheltered as a kid so she grew up trying to be a better parent by letting her kids do what they want, but then made it bad on the other side of the spectrum because she seemed distant, which made perfect sense for how her character grew.
  • @nonya_bidness
    Im getting to the point where im basically convinced hollywood just doesnt know how to write a happy, stable marriage. Maybe an extention of "write what you know"?
  • I remember my English teacher once said "If you're going to write a sequel then you should have it in mind when writing the original."
  • “Luke is in a self-imposed exile after his nephew turned evil and killed all his students.” This could have been switched out for Luke going under the radar to travel the galaxy looking for new students; which would be all the better when one worthy of becoming a Jedi finds him instead.
  • @221bornot2b
    I adored her rant about how they kill ships in sequels or future episodes of a show. I have this same pet peeve myself so it’s so satisfying knowing I’m not the only one who notices
  • Hear old batman say "can't believe I was ever that green. this is how you interrogate someone" legitimately gave me chills
  • @dionevans7895
    "I won't be using footage for this bit, so enjoy the drawings." Honestly, the drawings are one of the most charming draws of this whole channel, so please, keep 'em coming.
  • @gendygoblin8391
    Mark Hammil actually kept saying in interviews that he openly disagreed with his character and can be quoted saying “a Jedi wouldn’t give up!”
  • @Demon-hj3fh
    Elsa’s hair is some interesting symbolism, first it’s completely bound to her head, then at the end of frozen 1, it a sort of braided ponytail, but at the end of frozen 2 she has it completely down, like how she was trapped by having to hide her powers, then she becomes a queen where she’s a bit more free, then when she’s functionally a god she has bounds and can basically do whatever she wants
  • @popstarchamp
    Romantic couple: (exists) Sequal: Peace was never an option
  • "Why does Hollywood like splitting up perfectly good relationships!?" Man, Red has trouble reading relationships, but when she gets it, she gets it.
  • @newsystembad
    I, too, despise how every bright, optimistic hero somehow turns out to be a terrible parent. Which is why my old D&D character raised his daughter (my new character) with all the love and acceptance that his heart could manage, despite his busy schedule as a politician and magi-tech mogul. (Her hangups about not living up to her family legacy are entirely her own. Both her parents impressed on her that she doesn't HAVE to be like them. She can be far better .)
  • @starfish5599
    16:44 and where the hell is SUKI!? THEY DON'T EVEN MENTION HER EVEN ONCE. SHE'S A GAANG TOO!
  • @ThatZillaGuy2
    Old Wayne works so well not only because his aging forces him to focus on his experience, but his very last rescue mission as Batman traumatized him in a way that makes it believable on why such an obsessive vigilante would call it quits even with health problems. When a common thug started beating Wayne due to his health, Bruce actually pulled a gun on the thug, which scared the thug away. The fact that Batman and Bruce had to resort to using the same kind of weapon that killed his parents really got to Bruce that he felt that he didn't deserve to be Batman anymore. And this is supported a few times in the show, as Terry called bullshit on the health being the real reason Bruce quit. It's both a physical and psychological change on the original main protagonist that makes perfect sense.
  • It's nice hearing Red just go off on sequels and tropes I don't like. I gave this a thumbs up the moment she started ranting about how writers just seem allergic to naturally developed happy couples.
  • 6:00 I still find the fact that there was a set of chains specifically designed to stop Elsa’s powers were located in her parents dungeon, unsettling.
  • @Ludwig7231
    The curious case of the man who refused to kill a relative who turned evil, but tried to kill a relative who could become evil in the future…