We Bought the New Universal Battery for All Tool Brands

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Published 2024-05-03
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This week we were lucky enough to be able to purchase a PDNation universal power tool battery from Ceenr ahead of their "Early Bird" release and run it through its paces as we've been hearing a lot of chatter about this thing and its not even been out yet, so if they CAN make a dent in the strangle hold brands have in the power tool battery market, we want to be there to check it all out.
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0:00 What is it
1:29 Charging & Pricing
2:51 Makita Impact Driver
3:51 Capacity
4:58 M18 High Torque
5:42 Drill Testing
9:44 Hiccups
10:42 Voltage sag
11:42 Inside & Chemicals
13:08 Bosch Saw
14:30 Dropping it
15:22 Thoughts

All Comments (21)
  • To answer a common question: It doesn't charge on your slide on charger. I don't believe there's a way for it to work on every brand that way, and they're trying to make it so you can buy X brand and not have to buy a kit. Just the cheaper bare tool each time and for the most part ignore proprietary things. Theoretically someone could eventually just start a tool collection only ever buying bare tools. But choosing A cheap slide on charger it could fast charge on I think would be a good idea.
  • @SpAm-AcCoUnT
    Shoutout tool companies installing a lil’ special port and chip on their specific batteries in about a year and a half
  • @howa08
    I have to say, the USB C charger is a huge selling point. I like to leave a spare impact driver in my truck and being able to charge and maintain the battery without the big charger is amazinf
  • Imagine a world where you don't need to wait 8 years for your color of tool brand to make a track saw, or the type of nailer you need, or your band wont make high performance batteries because they want to push you to their higher price line, or they start downgrading tools to place it better in their brand price ladder. Let's say your brand's mid torque impact is too long to fit where you commonly need it, instead of waiting years for a new generation you just go out and buy something a little shorter, maybe even at a better price. This is the beginning steps of something like that, and that's a world i want my children to grow up in lol :P
  • @MrMartinSchou
    USB-C (in the right revision) does support up to 240W power delivery. 48V at 5A
  • i recently learned the EU is actually drafting new laws to force a universal powertool battery connection. same as they did with usb-c for phones...
  • Drug dealer mentally is spot on. I have a garage full of Ryobi because I got a kit 20 years ago and never could bring my self to switch to another brand because of all the batteries I already have.😂
  • @FischerPrice74
    Im fully okay with this not liking VTEC impacts or saws if it works on impact drivers, drills, heat guns, or any variety of more "standard" power tool. Some things are built for the best, but not everything has to be. Charging with USB C is the dream and to not need a $100 add on kit to do so is sweet.
  • @squarrl
    This is just going to cause tool manufactures to add a handshake to the battery, I am kinda surprised it has not happened yet.
  • Batteries are so inflated and we see this through kit prices, sales, and what harbor freight sells their 12.0s for. Not long ago home depot had 3 12.0s for $400 and even more recently they had a 12.0 + two 3.0s for $200. Home depot also had a sale on their 60v tools that came with a 'free' 9.0 battery. They would never take a loss on their sales so all of this tells us that their regular prices could simply sit lower. I've already been running adapters for ~10 years though so I'm not sold on these as a completely new concept. I think they need to round those corners and potentially wrap in rubber for durability. Another big thing would be to make the adapters work for charging the batteries on name brand chargers because a hour+40 mins on a 4.0 is not feasible in the field. Overall, I like the direction they're going with this. Thanks for the video sir.
  • @Layneracer
    Batteries are becoming so expensive that it inspired me to learn about battery chemistry and electronics repair so I could Re-cell and repair M12 batteries for myself and coworkers. Why spend about $200 on batteries when I could put that money into a cheap spot welder, a nice soldering iron and like 20 high quality Samsung cells? The tools are buy once cry once and now I can repair my own stuff for a fraction of the price of instead of shelling out $60 for like $9 of lithium cells in a red flavoured plastic shell.
  • @BrokeLifeEU
    The EU managed to put the USB-C on the iPhone. I can only hope among other regulations they come up with one for interchangeable batteries between tool brands. I buy mostly Parkside tools, because the batteries are cheap. And the price of the battery is the biggest obstacle to overcome for me as I am not a professional user by any means. I use tools at home, around the car and bike and to make the occasional low budget and low quality YouTube video. So batteries sitting about doing nothing is not a good investment for me. So a Parkside 8Ah battery that works on a Milwaukee I would very much like. That said I am not a fan of the 3D printed adaptors. So go on EU take them on! P.S. It must be said that you have made another exceptional! Thank you!
  • @polaris6644
    The USB charging is a great idea. Being able to charge them on the way to a jobsite in a truck, or charge off generic cell phone portable chargers are not the most efficient ways to charge, but most definitely would be useful.
  • @gamerpaddy
    instead of them pricing them reasonably they probably pull the 14.4v ryobi and add a proprietary communication protocol thats encrypted most tools out there just need a 3.3v signal on the temperature pin to work, but a few require a data stream like all bosch ebike batteries that hasnt been hacked yet
  • @RainbowGin
    For a second I thought this was April fools. But now that I'm seeing it I'd love to get a 6-8ah from this brand and a Milwaukee adapter.
  • @GigsVT
    The lights staying on and draining the battery in a few days is an absolute dealbreaker.
  • @tankmlee
    i like to buy used tools from goodwills and stuff, this is a HUGE thing for me, i can stop worrying about the cost of a missing battery
  • @mondavou9408
    I LOVE any company trying to solve problems / provide solutions to people! Bonus points if you're also making it difficult for predatory companies at the same time.
  • @refactorear
    Oh, neat, yesterday I saw this at Dean's channel and they looked cool but was waiting for a more in-depth view, thanks! I just hope it is not just like the xkcd "Standards" comic. And I'm afraid this won't make makers lower their prices but instead adding more security features, fuses or stuff to detect whether the battery is original or not and not draw enough power when a knock-off is detected.