Spider-Man 3 got THIS right...

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Raimi’s Eddie Brock went to church and begged God to k*ll Peter Parker. That was pretty great lol

Spider-Man 3 is just an overall overhated and underrated film. Sure it's got it's issues, but I feel like it does a good job at ending the trilogy and telling a compelling story... which if we are going to be honest, are the only 2 things the final movie in a trilogy really needs to achieve.

they will never make me hate you spider-man 3

What I like about Topher Grace's portrayal is how almost Nick-Cagey he is. "My spider sense is tingling, if you know what I'm talking about..."

I can't believe I never realized it before! The more you laid the groundwork for your point, the more it clicked. Brilliant work from both you and Raimi

Best portrayal we ever got on film. The problem is he only got so little screen time. I genuinely genuinely wish in another reality Sam Raimi's Spiderman 3 has only symbiote Sandman and Goblin and then the Spiderman 4 is all about Venom

I personally hope they bring Topher Grace back in Venom 3 so he can add more to the character and maybe become a fan favorite too

Topher Grace's Venom was nice, he was desperate, revengeful but I would've still made him bulkier. It could've shown how insecure he was and what seemed intimidating to him. If you have the teeth, why not the size.

Between Sam raimis interpretation and the comics there’s a villain to anti villain to anti hero thing venom kind of went through could be a great character arc

There’s a resurgence of Spiderman 3 content on yt and I’m here for it

I think the biggest thing Raimi missed was the relationship between Eddie and Venom - the symbiote had sentience and talked to him. Leaving that out was the biggest flaw. I didn't really mind how they changed the character other than that detail.

Also, Eddie and Gwen technically aren't in a relationship; the novelization explains it's all in Eddie's head, and he's stalking Gwen obsessively. Meanwhile, Gwen tells Eddie to back off since there’s nothing between them, but he can’t take the hint and soon goes off the deep end.

The animated Venoms had some good stories. The way the 90s series portrayed him, Peter was terrified for all the people in his life becaue he knew Eddie and the symbiote knew all his secrets and were angry enough to ise them. Imagine a psychopath who wants to hurt you, knowing everything about you.

The fact insomniac just forget about Venom being able to bypass Spider Man's Spider Sense kinda bothers me.

the thing is raimis Venom is actually pretty spot on, the only thing wrong was his build and physique, and some of the cockiness just came off as jackassy instead of tough guy esque, Topher actually captures his character pretty well but in the end he wasnt right for the part due to his build, its funny raimi says Venom isnt relatable, but to the average fan he actually is, everyone can go through hard time just how eddie brock is usually portrayed, and find someone or something to blame, and in turn they want revenge/vengeance when they are not in the right mindset, hes also relatable in the form of his comeback going from bad to good and finding forgiveness and realization, if anything eddie brock is the most relatable villain in Spider-man history, cause just like peter hes just your average guy

I agree with roughly 90% of your assessment here. Im happy that someone on youtube has finally came out and dug into the character of venom in Spider-Man 3, and how its deeper than they think. Your assessment is spot on damn near. They originally cut out alot of the horror aspects of the venom in the film..... originally his death was alot more sinister and dark. The symbiote absorbed eddie and died trying to bond to peter one last time. It scared the kids in the test audience so they had to remove it. One reason venom wasnt as big was because the special FX department wanted topher to be wearing a practical suit amd rely less on cgi as possible. They were also HEAVILY INFLUENCED BY JOHN CARPENTERS "THE THING" and his design in film reflects that. Thats why the symbiote has more weight to it. You see how aggressively the symbiote bonds with eddie. Twisting and mangling his flesh. Affecting his body by adding muscles, changing his cell structure. Sharpening his teeth, giving him all of spidys powers. You see the symbiote inside his body as well. Clawing and pulling at his face when facing peter. Rami did a good job with what he had. And wanted to do more, considering hes a horror director at heart. Venoms role in this films fits a greater purpose and narrative to the theme of spidy 3 which is forgiveness. He serves as his dark reflection and his past sins come to light. He is what peter could have become had he fell completely to his ego and anger. The tom hardy movies have no soul. People see the big muscles and the mouth and thats all they need to be happy for venom nowadays. If you care more about how a character looks rather than actually have it written well, then your the problem. Your telling these companies that thats all you need. "Just throw venom in there and make him big and goofy" i love venom as a character and i always will. But it kills me to see him be bastardized in modern media today. To have my fav charcter be in two terribly written and directed films, then have people praise it just simply for "comic book accuracy" hurts. You should ask your favorite comic book character to be in a good movie and written well. If i see venom on screen one day and he looks exactly like how he did in the comics..... but his movies are terrible and wrtten like dog water im not gonna just blindly except that. Because fans deserve better. Sam rami di the best he could with the story of venom. His place in spidy 3 will be remembered nore fondly over time than the hardy version. Simply because you can see the heart and passion they had with each film and the lessions it taught peter. Spider-Man 3 has its flaws but the films and its interpretation of venom will be remembered fondly over time compared to the souless goofy interpretation we have today. In my opinion

Well, what I think Venom foils in Spider-Man in the comics is twofold: -Envy -Responsibility People tend to forget, DUE to multimedia exposure and the advent of the Raimi movies, that Spider-Man is one spiteful motherfucker in the books. Especially during the original Lee and Ditko run. Peter was always such a dick that it detered people away from him. Like the time he joined the Avengers, only for him to be such a nuisance that they kicked him off. Eddie parallels that in a sense. When his career is ruined on the Sin Eater case, he doesn't accept the problem was himself for being impulsive and picking the wrong person, he turns to blame Spider-Man. He blames Spider-Man because he was the one who exposed his faulty reporting, which is a weak reason. But it's also something that Peter Parker would get angry about (especially as back then, the black suit was just a suit with a conscious and didn't affect Peter's emotions). So, not accepting responsibility, Eddie goes to the church, further blames Spider-Man, and is "blessed" with the symbiote. He is the inversion of Peter's traits to be the antithesis of his most important lesson, "With Great Power, Comes Great Responsibility." That power first lied in his reporting ability, now it lies in his mantle of Venom. Then the theme of responsibility is elaborate on in subsequent runs where he becomes the Lethal Protector, and nowadays, resembles more of a superhero than an anti-hero, because he accepted responsibility. Edit: I forgot to include it in my main analysis, but the Symbiote is mad because it was only trying to help Peter, but because of Peter not sympathizing with it and rejecting it, it develops an anger towards Peter/Spider-Man. This hate towards Peter as a person is added onto by Eddie's hatred towards Spider-Man. Another angle that you could view it from is that he shows the aftermath of the everyman who Spider-Man doesn't really care about in the long run being dragged into something bigger. Sort of like Spot in ATSV. That is a bit of a stretch, but it's something to think about. The best version of Venom, however, is Spectacular's without a shadow of a doubt

Venom was awesome in Spider-Man 3

The symbiote is actually just the Symbiote EDDIE named the unification of himself and the Alien as Venom.