Three Wargaming MISCONCEPTIONS

Regarding point 1, Ash from Guerilla Miniature Games mainly plays at his studio and I’d say he accounts for over 50% of all tabletop games ever played. So this checks out 👍

This guy really likes miniature agnostic games! Fair enough, I'm intrigued by them too :-)

I once placed an old, plastic DUPLO elephant on the table to serve as a Chaos Spawn just because I found this extremelly hilarious.

When I see 'miniature agnostic' in a game's description I know I can go wild with conversions and kitbashes, and I love that.

Years ago... I was living in and remodeling my first home, a monstrosity built in the 1920's with 5 bedrooms plus a huge dining room, living room, and basement. I was living by myself and played 40k at the time and came up with the idea I could host games on Sunday nights, I had saw horses and 4x6 plywood everywhere so setting up "table tops" was easy. I think at the height of what we called "Sunday night fights", we would have anywhere between 6-10 games going, that means anywhere between 12-20 people in the house wargaming. We would grill food, share food, enjoy a beer or two and roll dice and push little plastic soldiers across imaginary battlefields until 10pm when I would kick everybody out. I have been playing war games for over 20 years and have never seen probably more than 10 people gaming in a store unless it was a tournament like 'Ard Boyz or something like that... most table top gaming happens in the home, I can attest to that :)

I think that there's a lot of people like you. 20 years in and out of the hobby, I've never played in a store. In my teens, the nearest store was over an hour away and we needed a parent to take us. We played at home.

Between the time when the oceans drank Atlantis, and the rise of the sons of Aryas, there was an age undreamed of: The Beforetimes!

Exactly (miniature agnostic). I saw the stream you are talking about and several people were trying to make the point that it means "there is no miniature line dedicated to this ruleset".

You forgotthe ACTUAL biggest misconception about tabletop wargaming: that one can have "enough models" at some point. No, you can not. There is ALWAYS a next shiny model to get, that's just a fact.

I love the "Made in Wisconsin" label on the closing screen :D

The netrunner call out got me. My friends and I still own our large netrunner collections!

We still play 2nd edition 40K and an occasional game of revised 7th edition because the core rules are just better than the current game. But I totally agree, I go U go turn activation is antiquated. It dates back to 1913 from the Little Wars system. There are far better war-game rules from companies other than GW. People owe it to themselves to try them out and see what they are missing. Bolt action is my favorite so far and Chain of command seems to have an intriguing system as well.

Miniature agnostic games care more about giving you a balanced game out of the box because they have no profit motive to make to certain new things more powerful or relevant I. The meta to make them sell, and they know they won't patch the game once it's in book form so it has to be good to go as possible. They tend to be much better games on the whole than the deeply entrenched games that have a bespoke miniature line. Not always, but frequently

“Some of the worst places on the internet are the comment sections” That is so true it hurts!

Splitting hairs a bit, but I think you might have to carve out some of the miniatures sales figure and put it in RPG. A decent chunk of the miniatures segment is Wizkids and other D&D related minis. I don't know the exact figure, but ICV2 has that info for sure. Great topic though! Nice shirt :)

The whole concept of miniature agnostic was foreign to me until I started trying out 40k which was the only game I played with a dedicated set of models for the setting. I had played historical wargames for the most part and was used to a large selection of manufacturers, scales, and rulesets for the same setting. The thought of only having one scale and one set of models and one ruleset was strange. It still feels weird sometimes playing in the 40k setting and having so little flexiblity.

I have to say that OnePageRules with 40k miniatures really does it for me - especially the alternating activation sequence. There is also a little WW2 ruleset called Iron Cross that has an interesting and compelling command system. Great video as always 👍

Well technically you don't even have to make up the lore yourself with miniature agnistic rules. If you like the lore, but do not like the rules, why not play Grimdark Future rules but inside the WH40k lore? I play Dragons Rampant in the setting of Middle Earth for instance.

"As long as you and your opponent are on the same team, great!" - Uncle Atom 2021

You gotta cover Stargrave soon! Looks like a great option for Kill Team models