Healing After Trauma with Dr. Peter Levine | Being Well

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Published 2024-04-29
Somatic psychology legend Dr. Peter Levine joins Dr. Rick and I to explore how we can use body-based approaches to recover from traumatic experiences. Peter uses his personal history with trauma to illustrate the practices he’s taught to thousands of people through his work. We discuss the importance of resourcing experiences, creating safety, developing interoception, abandonment wounds, bringing a diverse perspective to somatic work, and working with shame.

Please be aware that this episode includes a description of sexual assault.

About our Guest: Dr. Peter Levine is the creator of Somatic Experiencing and the Founder and President of the Ergos Institute for Somatic Education. He’s taught at a number of universities, has received Lifetime Achievement awards from numerous organizations, and is the best-selling author of several books, including Waking the Tiger, Healing Trauma, and his most recent book An Autobiography of Trauma: A Healing Journey.

Key Topics:
0:00 Introduction
2:10 Peter’s dream about publishing his recent book
6:40 Themes connecting the personal and professional for Peter
10:20 Physicalization, pendulation, and decontextualization of trauma
16:40 Presence with others, and moving gently into shame to move through it
21:20 The fundamental view that we our innately healthy, and completing the arc
23:40 When the prompt “feel it in your body” doesn’t work
27:55 Advice for when you don’t have access to therapy or a SEP practitioner
30:15 Tenderness
34:10 Anchoring in the here and now when accessing past memories
39:10 Conceiving of yourself as a source of safety
43:20 Generating your own internal wellbeing
46:10 Acknowledging the reality of your history, patience, and completion
49:40 Living by dying
52:20 Recap

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Who Am I: I'm Forrest, the co-author of Resilient (amzn.to/3iXLerD) and host of the Being Well Podcast (apple.co/38ufGG0). I'm making videos focused on simplifying psychology, mental health, and personal growth.

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Who Am I: I'm Forrest, the co-author of Resilient (amzn.to/3iXLerD) and host of the Being Well Podcast (apple.co/38ufGG0). I'm making videos focused on simplifying psychology, mental health, and personal growth.

I'm not a clinician, and what I say on this channel should not be taken as medical advice.

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All Comments (21)
  • @yingke_zhao
    "trauma is not what happens to us, but what we hold inside in the absence of an empathetic witness"
  • @jennadee6761
    Thank you all so much for the most amazing interview! It was such a calming experience watching a conversation between three of the most gentle, humble & compassionate men I’ve ever seen in the field of psychology. Forrest, I know you’re not a psychologist but goodness, someone get this man an honorary degree, would they? 😅 Tremendous gratitude to you all & especially Peter for his vulnerability and courage to speak on such a sensitive, deeply personal topic.
  • 1- your history matters 2- you can’t change what happened but you can heal today 3- awareness of the traces in the body 4-the power of importance for creating safety 5-live by dying 💙
  • Three beautiful, soulful, "real" men. Thank you! Forrest, I hope you'll interview Dr. Peter Levine along with your dad again sometime. I think this is my favourite episode, tbh. ... it's so healing to hear men speak like this!
  • @karenbird1279
    I am deeply touched by this interview with Mr. Levine. It brought me to tears. I don’t know what other words to say except Thank You to him for being such a light to the world. And thank you Forrest for bringing this interview and this awareness to me and so many others. ❤️
  • @karenslaughing
    Thank you Rick for bringing up the neurodivergent challenges and traditional mindfulness teachings and therapy may be unskillful. - as a neurodivergent person with cptsd I often felt deep shame in both meditation retreats and in therapy that I couldn’t feel the way I perceived others felt. With more awareness of how large the neurodivergent population is I am hopeful therapists and meditation teachers will continue to deepen sensitivity and skillful means for neurodivergent people. Thank you both for your very meaningful and compassionate interviews 🙏🏽❤️
  • @sallycanady3764
    Thank you for being so genuine and trusting us with your story Peter.
  • @sheilasmith1109
    A wonderful Chiropractor told me about dr Lavine's book, "Waking The Tiger" years ago. He suggested it to me. I wanted to read it, but something prevented me... I now understand that I am ready! I'm so grateful for this interview and insight to my unrelenting physical pain that keeps returning. I believe that only I can heal this pain and that there is a teacher that I must look for because I'm READY for them to show up to help me!🙏❤😊
  • @AnneAlready
    Peter is an absolute legend and an international treasure. Thank you for the great interview!
  • @badmojjo
    Amazing, only a few likes for an interview with one of the best authors and pioneers in psychotherapy.
  • For me who is studying Somatic psychology this was an awesome chat! Thank you both and also for Peter Levine for wearing his truth on his sleeve! ❤️❤️❤️
  • @Mushroom321-
    Wow!!, peter A.levine. got a lifetime achievement award. 🎉🎉👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
  • @JKB-ji6xl
    When you are ready, a teacher will appear, or a few. Thank U!
  • @annaynely
    Great contributions from doctor Levine to trauma. For me it stands out that I cannot find his early life biiography on wiki or the internet, nothing about his parents. Also stands out to me that having been born in the 40s, he always tells the story that his parents' got him a train that circulated from under his bed, ,& the magical experience this was for him comprehensively cuz it gave him the important message he was loved. So I deduct that he was not brought up in abject poverty. There are many ppl in the world that have 7 or more points on the ACE study & that is what truncates ppls lives. Congrats for your life Dr. Levine!
  • @SacredDreamer
    😭😭😭 sending you much love and protection. Wishing i could change the world into a place of saftey and wellbeing forever
  • Love to hear Dr Levine's personal experience with trauma. He speaks like someone who was worked through multiple levels on it on a personal basis. He is a brilliant man. To expand on the importance of the "experiencing" part of this topic, most of us actually never really feel our bodies through the correct pathways/activation systems. Have 20 people line up in a row and have them lunge or test a wall sit movement and maybe 10 will report they feel their leg muscles, some will feel their knees, and some wont feel anything. Of the ones who feel their knees, when you can resequence the correct muscles.. they likely no longer feel the knee at all. This disconnect from the body is rampant. Especially so in the neurodivergent population I have worked with. It is almost all of us, in one manner or another. I have never worked with one client in the past 6 years that had significant neuro disconnection (at a muscular level) issues that did not also have significant mental health issues as well. Restoring connectivity through these systems can have an incredibly powerful impact on the nervous system.
  • True. In the manera of Bert Hellinger too, and adhering to Lao Tzu teachings : " El maestro aparece cuando el alumno está listo. Pero cuando el alumno está Realmente listo, el maestro desaparece". Thank you Dr. Levine and kind interviewers.