This 12 Pool Ain't What You Think!! | Is It IMBA Or Do I Suck

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All Comments (21)
  • @roarmalf
    It's the little things, like the page turn animation, that add so much.
  • @luckygozer
    Not trying to take gasses on any other base or spend their minerals on units really feels like Cheryl got flustered at some point. Almost as if they got thrown off script and then just froze up.Which is fine that happens. But it feels so weird to me to then look at said game and think it's a balance problem.
  • @disieh
    Ah, yet again a player who should have watched PiGs video about this exact build. Also, one pro tip for nydus hunting for those who don't know, nydus sound is localized. You can pinpoint the sound even through fog of war because the nydus sound is tied to the worm location. That way while the sound is playing, you can move the camera using minimap really fast and use the sound to get an approximation of the location of the nydus.
  • Diamond player here; there is a player on my MMR who specifically targets protoss players who does a similar build (he leaves against Terran and Zerg). He does a 12 pool ling rush, expands to three bases on a 2 base economy (the third base is just for larva) while pumping mainly queens, then starts nydus swarm hosting. It is incredibly frustrating as protoss because it feels that the early arsenal of toss is not well equipped to deal with this build; I have gone into fast charge as well as blink stalkers, or tried 2 stargate void rays. I do believe I would be able to beat this guy eventually if I negate the early damage of his 12 pool while getting my nat up, but I haven't see him around recently.
  • @hvip4
    10:50 Harstem's impeccable metaphors strike yet again 😂
  • Very interesting episode for me personally because I actually wanted to send in two PvZ games I lost to 1base swarm host hitting about 4:06 into the game. Funnily enough, it was against this same guy, Electryc. Exact same build but he seems to be slower in this match... anyway, I'm convinced he does this build every single game. Spines included, so you can't punish it too early. I was told void ray opener would beat it, so the second time i knew he was doing it i opened voids and he just sent 3 queens through the nydus too, and my voids couldn't do anything and apparently like 4-5 swarmhost are enough to kill a nexus because locusts have an insane 23.25 dps with no upgrades and live for 18 seconds. Even if they arent attacking the first few seconds, getting 200+ dps for 10 seconds from 8-10 locusts is enough to burn a nexus, or burn a shield battery and then the nexus on the next wave. Felt really oppressive.
  • This game was really lost quite early. Going for a 3rd nexus when he knew the zerg was on one base lair was probably the worst possible response, but it was his reaction when the first nydus popped up that was the real issue. He took the nydus out after 3 swarm hosts popped, and at that point he could have just run away from the locusts until they despawned, then take out the swarm hosts and the next nydus that was on the way. Instead he tries to focus fire the swarm hosts (that are on cooldown and are a non-threat at that point) and allows the 6 locusts to kill his entire army, resulting in him having nothing left to defend when the 2nd nydus finished and 3 more swarm hosts popped out.
  • @thezzach
    TY Harstem. I think your game analysis and blunt feedback is very useful. I've been stuck at Plat for a long time in large part bc I suck too. Trying to suck less.
  • @marmoran9493
    ah yes the swarm host cheese, ive seen too many protoss bases just melt hell 8 locusts can destroy a nexus before they die out
  • @Bourinos02
    To be fair, the game was over when he lost his entire army against 6 locusts...
  • @2019inuyasha
    he says he built canons everywhere. I look through the game and expect to see at least 10 of these bad boys, only to find out that 1 is the loneliest number...
  • TBH a diamond league using wierd cheeses in plat 3 is already a straight equivalent to smurf... Not that much in US server but overwhelmed low rank KR server for ages
  • Feel quite hit by the anime waifu pillow comment, considering I have about 30 of them in my walk in closet, but don't sleep with them due to not wanting to make them dirty
  • @MsHojat
    8:05 I disagree. There's lurker or muta. And while I suppose swarm hosts or infestors are also technically an option, it's the lowest of likelihoods and SH is dealt with in a very similar way as lurkers. Infestors these days would just be suicide since they don't really do anything. For that matter even Nydus/drop Baneling or Nydus/drop Hydra would also be gas heavy due to the high initial gas cost of the Nydus Network and Hydralisk/Baneling upgrades.
  • LOL'd at the waifu pillow no friends comment, love it Captain
  • @jackawaka
    havent watched the full video yet, currently at 2:39. Was slightly painful to hear that their response to nydus swarmhost was cannons, sounds like like building roaches into response to marauders, or stalkers without blink in response to several immortals