Where is the RUNWAY?! Unraveling the Mystery of Turkish Cargo flight 6491

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Published 2023-10-15
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This Cargo Boeing 747-400 is on approach into Manas International Airport in Kyrgyzstan. The aircraft is in full working order and the pilots are following the standard three degree glidelope down to runway 26. Or are they? A little known issue within the 747-logic is going to put these 2 pilots to the test very soon. Let’s explore...
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Below you will find the links to videos and sources used in this episode.

SOURCES
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Final Report:
mak-iac.org/upload/iblock/e3a/report_tc-mcl_eng.pd…

Electrical Box: oconnellelectric.com
www.oconnellelectric.com/services/transportation-a…

Defence Turk: Defence Turk via YouTube
   • Turkish Air Force  

Crash Images:
Credit: Bureau of Aircraft Accidents Archives:
admiralcloudberg.medium.com/matter-over-mind-the-c…

Credit: BBC
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Boeing HQ: mr_t_77
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CHAPTERS
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00:00 - Intro
00:55 - Flight Origins
04:21 - Leaving Hong Kong Behind
07:34 - Weather
10:41 - ILS Categories
13:33 - A Room with a View
17:46 - Coming Up Short
22:52 - Slowing Down
27:56 - A False Sense of Secuirty
34:40 - Ap

All Comments (21)
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  • @fastmph
    Retired international airline captain here. You do an excellent job on your videos and thanks for not being a “show man” but keeping it about safety.
  • @johnhaas5307
    I landed in Manas January 2012 (as a passenger) in very similar weather conditions. When those clouds finally lifted a couple of days later and I saw those mountains my first thought was, "Wow, I'm glad the pilots knew what they were doing."
  • As a regional airline FO I find these breakdowns super illuminating. Written accident reports are dry. Having you walk through the scenarios second by second allows me to put myself in the pilots shoes and see how human factors and errors in decision making contribute to the accident chain of these tragic flights. Thanks, Mentour.
  • @taragilesbie94
    My relatives think I’m nuts when I tell them that watching your videos about airline accidents & incidents has made me a less nervous flyer, but it’s true! Knowing just how much training pilots continuously undergo, how many redundant systems there are, and how many things can go wrong and still produce a safe outcome, has completely changed my perspective on (and appreciation for) flying. I’m now much more nervous in the Uber on the way to the airport than I am on the plane 😂
  • @bigorange2082
    The plane was doing its best to tell them something was wrong. The plane should have yelled “we’re crashing stupid!!” Rest in peace to those pilots. Tragic
  • @JoeNasr123
    Wow! My friend, I have been watching you for YEARS, since you were just sitting on a couch. Now your production value is better than most documentaries!
  • @malcolmp5245
    As a retired 747 Captain, I was itching to ask ATC for high speed and use the SPEED BREAK. I'm also guessing that the fact that they were both ex-military pilots made it harder for the First Officer to be more assertive with the Captain. There were so many automatic go around triggers that this crash is really astonishing. Keep up the great work! There is so much that commercial pilots can learn from your wonderful videos, every time any pilot thinks "I'll never do that" means that he probably won't and lives will be saved. Also a shout out to the rest of your team who's production standards are first class.
  • @dcamron46
    I’m not a pilot, I’m not afraid of traveling , but I am addicted to these videos. They’re extremely high quality and insightful about the real logistical and technical issues. It gives a great look at how complex flying is. It’s one of the most daring, risky, but also technically exceptional thing any typical human experiences in life. The stakes can’t be any higher so it demands excellence and that’s what these videos are all about — the high bar of excellence needed to achieve the amazing feat of flight. I am an engineer who works in semiconductors systems and honestly we can all take a page out of this book. Even in our low stakes jobs it is important to always try keep the bar high and be intentional in our designs and decisions.
  • @xriskava2151
    The production value just keeps getting better and better! Better visuals, better music, better editing, better scripting! You fill the hole that TV channels left, when they replaced shows like "Seconds from disaster" and "MythBusters" with crap reality shows. Except you do it better, in my opinion. Because you don't just say what went wrong. You explain how ti should have worked and how it is now harder to repeat those mistakes. Shows like yours are the reason I went from "at least in a ship, I know how to swim" to being exited just to get on an airplane. Always looking forward for your next "quality > quantity" video.
  • While i am in the space industry and there are major differences, these videos are extremely informative and provide great insight into the aviation industry. Thanks for your hard work!
  • @nialeo
    there’s terrific irony in wanting to land as quickly as possible and risking your life as well as several others over what otherwise would be the slight inconvenience of a go-around. that’s what’s astonishing to me in these kinds of accidents.
  • I landed at Manas a day or two later and faced the destruction. I will never forget this picture. Recently I flew with a pilot who knew the captain for a long time. His statement was that it was just a matter of time until something like that would happen. Total ignorance of rules and procedures and in particular of CRM seemed to be his typical behavior. JUST QUOTING! RIP and thanks for teaching us another lesson about the importance of CRM and situational awareness!
  • @PaulWallis
    Thank you so much for your ongoing work on this channel which IMHO is the best of its kind. You helped me on a recent flight. We were in an A380 coming into land at Brisbane international airport. We were over the runway. It sounded likme the engines had been dialled right back but somehow we were not losing altitude. I was pretty sure we were too high and too far along for a safe landing and sure enough we began climbing again to do a go-around. My hunch was that we were not dropping because of a sudden and unexpected headwind. Sure enough an announcement was made that due to "unexcpected winds" our "landing would be delayed by 15 minutes." I reckon I had my head around what was going on and felt "yes that's right" when we did the go around purely because of watching you videos. If I hadn't been so familiar with possible reasons for a go around, thanks to you, I would have probably been more anxious, wondering what had gone wrong. I am not an anxious flyer at all. I love flying. But I note how many anxious flyers you have helped, and on this recent occasion you helped me. You are a brilliant communicator and I am learning so much from you. Thank you! Wishing you and yours Health and Peace, Paul
  • @user-cm3xh5jg3h
    As a retired B747-400 Captain from a major airline. I must compliment you on your factual analysis. The video presentation is fantastic, makes you feel like you are right there! Hoppas att du producerar många mera reporter!
  • Imagine being that unlucky. You're just living your life and then suddenly a plane just crashes into your house and kills you while you're asleep.
  • @Sternodox
    My wife and I had our honeymoon at St. Barts. Most pilots know about that airport. We'd been stranded for 2 days in Puerto Rico due to horrid weather. Finally the weather cleared ... sort of ... and we took off for St. Barts. I'd been flying Cessna 150s for a few years at that point and, although we were in a larger 6-seater I was mentally going over how I would control the aircraft if I was flying it. We got to the treacherous down sloped runway and I knew Immediately that we were too high. I was certain he'd do a go around, but no ... we landed hard. And went straight into the water. I got a bump on the head but that was the only injury. We were refunded our tickets.
  • @Voltikz95
    I have to admit, before finding your channel, i was a REALLY nervous flyer, i would always overthink what could go wrong and just end up in a panic attack. Now, though, with the help from your content, i am much more relaxed, knowing the training you pilots go through, and the levels of redundancy built into the aircraft to keep us all safe. So a huge thank you, Petter, for opening my eyes to the safety in the aviation, educating, and entertaining us all!
  • @MrTmm97
    Please don’t skip the recommendations if there are any for events like this. They are the the light at the end of a dark story which always leaves the video on more of a positive note…even if the event was tragic! As usual great video…I always appreciate your perspective on these aviation event analysis! Keep up the awesome work!
  • @bugalaman
    I spent many house of my life on that runway while it was repaved. Part of that time, they had a displaced threshold for RWY08, reducing the length by about 3000'. Pilots still had 10500' of runway to use. This didn't stop some pilots from buzzing the paving crew. An AN-124 flew over them at no higher than 30'. It was really scary and the paving crew was pissed.