First time watching The Hobbit An Unexpected Journey movie reaction

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In the movies, we never see the eagles talk as they do in the books. But they are (iirc) basically a kingdom unto themselves, and asking them for help would be like negotiating with the elves or any other free people. They're friends with Gandalf and will help bail him out, but they're not servants, and they're definitely not going to be flying horses for the dwarves. Even when Gandalf is rescued from Saruman's tower in LOTR, by Gwahir the Windlord, the eagle makes it clear to Gandalf that he will not fly him "to the ends of the earth"; Gandalf has to find a horse to resume his journey.

Quinn is correct, the trolls are those that we see when Frodo is poisoned by the Nazgûl in the Fellowship of the Ring where Sam remarks: "Look mr. Frodo, it's mr Bilbo's trolls!" when they lay Frodo to rest for a bit with Aragorn in a clearing. The way the trolls argue over how to cook them is also how Bilbo tells it at his birthday party to the kids if you recall.

we know where Balin ended up - "Balin son of Fundin, Lord of Moria"

Oak is a reactor who has an interesting, cute personality for me. He's like, his eyes sometimes make him looks like hes asleep during the reaction, but all of a sudden you'll hear his voice excited about something. I think it's cute 🤣

4:44 Tolkien actually invented the pronunciation and spelling of Dwarven (possessive) and Dwarves (plural). As well as Elven and Elves. Before that it was always Dwarf (possessive) / Dwarfs (plural) and Elf/Elfs. His editor and publisher really tried to get him to change it, but he refused. Being a master linguist and having deep knowledge of the roots of the words, he was adamant that Dwarven/Dwarves and Elven/Elves made more sense. Which is what we now use today.

The Hobbit was published in 1937. It is a children's book with 300 pages. Due to popular demand, the publishers wanted a sequel. After 20 years, the Lord of the Rings came out with 1,050 pages. Peter Jackson wanted to make the Hobbit first into a film but coulnt get the copyrights. But he had an access to LotR IP. And the rest is history.

The Oak missed the "I'm going on an Adventure!" meme!

This trilogy has a slightly different feel and style compared to Lord of the Rings. I’ve always felt that, in universe, part of that reason is that the events of The Lord of the Rings is a story being retold from Frodo’s perspective. But this trilogy is being retold from the perspective of Bilbo. The variations in how the two hobbits write down their own adventures is part of why we the audience see the stories a little differently.

The Eagles won't go near the dragon. It's a simple as that. There are no birds around the Lonely Mountain because Smaug is there. That's why the lone thrush that goes there and taps the mountain is significant. It's an omen of change.

Balin, the eldest member of the group and the dwarf that was telling about the story of how Thorin Oakenshield took up a piece of wood and defended his father against Azog (the battle where Azog killed his grandfather the king by beheading), is the dwarf that is lain in the tomb in the Fellowship of the Rings. The pages that Gandalf reads from in that tomb was taken from the skeleton remains of Ori, the dwarf who doesn’t like eating green things and was the loudest and longest one to burp from Bilbo’s dining room table. Gloin is Gimli’s father. They did a great job on casting and makeup because he does look similar to the character we all know and love from LOTR, Gimili.

I like the Lord or the Rings better myself, and it took me until the end of the second movie in the Hobbit trilogy to understand why. TLOTR was undeniably epic. It had a few funny moments but mostly it was a serious and weighty series. I mean it was understood that the world depended on the mission succeeding. Then the Hobbit comes out and you know it is Bilbo’s story and you expect it to be just as epic as TLOTR. But it isn’t. It isn’t played as serious or weighty. Instead you have singing dwarves and goblins and a the quirky brown wizard with bird poop on his head. And the trolls that act stupid but not terrifying at all. After TLOTR it was a let down at first for me. But then I kind of got it. This was when the ring was first found and evil was just starting to creep back in the world. It wasn’t reestablished and everyone was fighting for their lives yet. So it was a much more innocent time. And the mission wasn’t really life or death for the world or even a country or a race of people, it was a small group trying to reclaim a mountain that was their home and held their treasure in it. It wasn’t really meant to be an epic story, just a grand adventure story. Once I got that and watched the movies with that in mind, I liked and appreciated them a lot more.

I grew up with the LOTR , as a little kid I would watch them constantly! When the hobbit came out, I watched them in the theater which I didn't do with LOTR because I was too young, but that was an incredible experience. My sister who has read all the books, always told me not to question Tolkiens great mind, there is always a reason for everything in his stories.

"forged in Gondolin" tells us the swords are from the First Age of Middle Earth. 6000+ years old. Gondolin was a hidden Elf city in the First Age. It was eventually destroyed by the forces of Morgoth. He is the Satan of Middle Earth and Sauron was one of his servants. They are very powerful swords indeed, and Sting was also made then. (as a dagger or something like that)

Radagast the Brown is my absolute favorite character, because he’s so naturally kind 😊

I watched this movie in the cinemas, and when Smaug appeared at the end and growled, the whole room shook. It felt like he was right there, and it put my heart in my throat. I've never been so in love before!

Yeah Fili and Kili are Thorin's nephews that line was clearly blessed with the handsome dwarf genes 🤣🤣 they did try a few things with Kili like a biggee nose etc but it all looked pretty unnatural so they didn't change too much. Kili's actor btw is pretty well known here (Aidan Turner) he's the lead of a period drama called Poldark. Also Thorin's actor (Richard Armitage) is pretty established too. Ken Stott who plays Balin has been in a few things here too but I'd say of the dwarves Bofur (errr...he's the one that has the chat with Bilbo when he's considering leaving before they meet the Goblins) is the most well know he's played by James Nesbitt he's in loaaads of shows here in the UK & Ireland. Nori (err, he doesn't have many lines..he has the sort of star shaped hair) is played by Jed Brophy who is good mates with Peter Jackson and had a lot of extra parts on LOTR. Including the Uruk rider ofthe warg that takes Aragorn pver the cliff, and the squeaky orc that gets decapitated for dinner when they want to eat Merry and Pippin 🤣. I also believe he's a rohan soldier, an elf, a ring wraith at points..he crops up a lot. And his son actually played Aragorn and Arwen's son in the vision she has in Return of the King!

Some trivia: one of the dwarves in this company is Gloin, that’s Gimli’s father, he’s the one who reacted to Elrond offering them food; also Balin is the one whose tomb we saw Gimli cry over in Moria in the first film, and it was Ori’s body who was clutching the book that Gandalf picked up to read about what had happened. The LOTR is a more traditional fantasy epic, whereas I always felt that the Hobbit is more of a whimsical adventure tale, after all, it was written to be more or less of a children’s story. I always thought the first Hobbit movie really captured that style of lighthearted whimsy. The later films kinda changed tone to be more serious to line up with LOTR and the more darker moments to come. The Hobbit trilogy isn’t perfect and there was a lot of issues behind the scenes in getting these films made. But overall I still enjoyed them very much and this cast is absolutely wonderful.

Martin said the Gollum scene was one of the first scenes they did and they played prettt much the whole thing start to end in one take like a play and they both loved it. Also fun fact Andy Serkis was a second unit director on these movies!

I absolutely LOVE the Hobbit movies. I don't understand why some people don't like them ❤