HVAC Contractors Hate This! - USA States Band Together!

Published 2024-05-03
In this video, Joshua Griffin goes over an article explaining how some USA states are getting together and possibly banning certain HVAC systems. Nine states have pledged to boost heat pump installations within their states. These pledges may lead to stricter laws and banning of HVAC systems, not conforming to zero emission standards. Josh covers the article and gives a few concerns, revolving around consumers and buying HVAC systems.
To read the article, click here: energynews.us/2024/02/07/nine-states-pledge-to-boo…

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All Comments (20)
  • @seroxide
    Just for fun I looked up the performance data for 2 Carrier product 3 ton heat pumps. The first is a Carrier 15 SEER system and the second one is a Bryant 23 SEER Variable speed system. At 47F the Carrier has a heating capacity of 30K BTU, at 3F it has a heating capacity of 12K BTU. The Bryant has an impressive heating capacity of 44K Btu at 47F, but drops to 23K Btu at 3F. All heat pumps lose capacity as the outside temperature drops. Another way to look at it is the more you need the less you get. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of heat pumps and have installed more of them than I can count over the years. That 3 ton Carrier unit should be able to keep you warm in 3F temperatures as long as your house isn't rejecting more than 12K BTU/H. Knowing your heat loss/gain and the heat pumps capacity at YOUR design temperature will give you the answer as to whether it will work. Make the salesman give you the numbers before you sign the contract!
  • @jasonligo895
    I may start to look into heat pumps myself. Not happy with how NJNG had been raising delivery charges far higher than the rate of inflation, especially before the pandemic. For example, 2018 to 2019 the delivery charge went up by ~18%.
  • @iraweiss517
    I'm confused. I always thought geothermal heat pumps were heat pumps that were ground sourced rather than air sourced. So, wouldn't they be considered heat pumps in those states?
  • @AnalogueKid2112
    It’s a good idea especially for places like Maine with fuel oil and California where natural gas is way more expensive than the rest of the country. I think the biggest hurdle will be bringing the price down for cold climate heat pumps - right now manufacturers mark them up even though they’re not really that much more expensive to build. Hopefully competition can happen and the consumer benefits
  • @amg5619
    There’s been heat pumps used in PA for many years from people I know it’s kinda surprising to me and I know some with geothermal. Our friend who works on boilers is older so he doesn’t care to learn more about heat pumps but he uses them in his house and is very happy with them. (XLTH Fujitsus)
  • @seroxide
    I have a heat pump and I live in north Texas where a well installed and tuned heat pump will work 95+ percent of the time. We're rarely below 25F so it's really not a problem. When I was installing systems years ago, I would only recommend a heat pump if the customer already had one or if they were using resistance heat. Gas furnaces in this part of Texas will almost last a lifetime and are more cost efficient in my opinion. I would recommend anyone in a climate where 10F-15F is the norm in the winter to get an iron clad performance warranty from anyone trying to sell them a heat pump. When the supplemental or emergency heat starts running, and it will at those temperatures you can almost see the Benjamin's flying out the door. Don't just listen to the salesman, make him put it in writing! PS- I work on heat pumps on a daily basis.
  • @jdms1eeper
    ok, these states that use oil also have homes that are not supplied with enough electricity to accommodate a Heat pump. Thats an additional expense in a Runaway inflation economy. This isn't in a normal person's budget when you spring it on them, especially the older community that may be on a fixed income. You're forcing more debt onto the citizens. 2nd. If they made every state do this at the same time, I feel it would overload the current electricity supply and we would experience rolling blackouts. This plan being forced and no official explaining to the population why it's being quickly forced, seems to be hidden and evil. we need 100% transparency in our government because this Climate Green policy is going to ruin our civilization. I feel there is A LOT more to this story we are being alluded to.
  • @InsidiousDr9
    Heat pumps are great, but Colroado has crazy diurnal swings making hybrid fuel necessary. A big enough 100% heat pump would be oversized for cooling, as well the auxiliary natural gas is good as a back-up.
  • @tmanch1
    More Gov regulations equals more dollar cost for the consumer. As you said in an earlier video, more efficient is more money. Return on Investment is 12yrs plus. Can electrical grid take the demand on those cold or hot days w/o blackouts? That is the problem.
  • @Fast1Guy
    As a Canadian living in North Western Ontario Canada after the first winter with heat pumps I can say that I'm very impressed. At -27c (-16f) still had a good heat in a 65 year old home. Looking forward to trying AC this summer. Propane, oil and wood are my other options.
  • @wrefk
    It just doesn't make any sense to not use heat pumps at this point, all houses get an air conditioner, might as well make it work the whole year instead of just one season. Dual fuel if needed, but the heat pump should be able to handle the significant majority of heating needs, no reason to avoid. My 13 year old crappy budget heat pump kept up all winter without uses the heat strips(i disabled them), hit a low of -5, North Kentucky.
  • @picklerix6162
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. People in Maine are really gonna freeze when that cold Canadian wind blows below 10 degrees and that heat pump won’t be able to keep up. Better invest in a pellet stove or your electric bill will skyrocket when those emergency electric heating elements kick in.
  • @elgringoec
    I feel like saying "Northeast" pretty much sums it up. Plus it blows my mind how sensible people capitulate to the fringe among us. I'm all for efficiency and stewardship but these gals are simultaneously driving the costs up for everything while demanding we all sacrifice to pay for their delusions. I know there's a lot of things like this but it's reminding me of "you have to pass the bill to find out what's in it". Why are we collectively such slow learners?
  • @dnell6854
    I LOVE IT!!!!!I hate working on gas 😊
  • @Cal-fr9mw
    As a homeowner, I love my 90% efficient, gas furnace used to heat with the heat pump and to me I just couldn’t never go back to a heat pump
  • @gordonpotts753
    Heat pumps suck. Nat gas is the best value to heat a home
  • @victorsr6708
    As a contractor 90% of what I sell are heat pumps. What’s interesting is that the 10% of people that don’t buy heat pumps are all part of a particular political party.