The Crisis Phase: The Fourth Turning Explained by Neil Howe

If public schools are a civic institution that was suppose to create order, I am giving those up and avoiding them for my children!!

1980. The future will be awesome. 2024, I want to go back to 1980. LOL.

Excellent interview! I love listening to Neil Howe

When money is everything, there is no connection. Money and morality don't mix well.

Kai, Wow. This is great! Love and Light to each of you! 💖

The time flew by! So educational and insightful!

Thank you guys 😃🙏👊🤝

Absolute standing ovation for this convesation/dialog! Utterly wonderful exchange - brillantt work on both sides of the table!!

Thanks buddy

Excellent show 👍

Excellent episode, thanks.

Like Mega-Trends, The Third Wave and other “big picture” analytic framework books of the past, I’ve found Neil’s books and this interview to be insightful and helpful in organizing and understanding the huge panorama of events, forces and dynamics we read and hear about every day. Like many other authors and public speakers lately, the answers may not be clear or easy, but sometimes, I’m happy just to be able to ask smarter questions or even just a better framework around which to organize my thoughts. Thanks for sharing your work and wisdom.

Great interview Kai, well done. Neil is sooo interesting but, the most interesting was a comment you made at the end, that is, passive investing leads to a misallocation of resources. That blew my mind!

Super!

Great interview.

I live in the U.K. but can identify with everything that is being discussed by generational changes. Me and my children do message everyday to share and discuss but I think the reason why this seems more possible is because I think the generational parenting style I grew up with was more about fitting in and I went to Art college and was seeking the individualised way to see society and I didn’t find safety in what looked outwardly as homogeneous expectations. I think also gen X started to self reflect therapeutically so self improvement wasn’t measured as economic success but somehow feeling like you wanted to understand yourself better. I think this mindset continues into our children who are also self reflecting and this brings more discussion openness even questions around parenting styles and by having a more discursive relationship on inner growth topics with our children is allowing us to have this platform that allows us to message every day and it feels ok to say, ‘can I have your opinion about this’ because we know or trust more that we do care about each other fundamentally not as examples of economic conformity. So I think the rise in self reflection ‘doing the inner work’ has played a big role in building family dynamics that feel family built internally constructed not societally made.

I have 5 children spanning millennial and gen Z the difference in the two generations is like a line in the sand

He is great at looking back. I understand and appreciate their studies. It is all well considered. But I have learned that when one grasps a truth, it changes. All the efforts of their studies were for a U.S.A. on the rise. Now there is a debt mountain, the demography of an aged population, a population suffering from serious health and medical issues, and lastly a world that has no illusions about the operation of an ossified bureaucracy at odds with most of the world and its' own population. It's going to be an interesting ride.

There are benefits to low growth and negative growth. Look at the Black Plague for an encapsulated snippet of depopulation. There will be more housing than people so new construction will primarily focus on replacing buildings that are beyond their useful life and cannot be rehabbed. Does construction industry collapse. No because now infrastructure which is govt or civic related construction (airports, railroads, highways, bridges, canals, ports, power plants, power distribution lines, restoring estuaries like the Chesapeake, New York and Boston, restoring wetlands, prairies, forests and rewilding. You're also looking at a renaissance in new civic buildings from stadiums to govt buildings. You'd think innovation would be slowing down but computers and Artificial Intelligence means there is still growing brainpower in technology....it's just that artificial intelligence will be replacing the people lost thru a declining population. If you look at the population decline of the Black Death and then the renaissance that happened afterward...technology did well but its focus of the technology changed...even war was reduced because there was no surplus population to send off to die. Today Russia and Ukraine war as well as the support of war in Europe shows how deeply out of touch leaders are...there is not one single country in Europe that has the surplus population that it can write off as unnecessary/surplus. There are 600,000 dead Ukrainians and probably 600,000 dead Russians and unlike past wars...that represents the loss of a century or more of growth...both countries will now have a fraction of their GDP and population once the war ends.

So Amazing that you brought Neil on to the show. Big applause on that!!! I actually read his a book. listening to him in person helps makes more sense of this complex topic, so enjoyable and eye opening. Bring him on some more. And if you are already brining aboard guests such as Neil, why not bring along guests such as Yuval Noah Harari and Dr. David passig 😊