Gundam 00: A Definitive Style Of Gundam (Season 1)

Boofire "I like Lockon" also Boofire "I haven't seen season 2 yet" oh no...

Coming from someone who enjoys 00 more than any other Gundam series, I'm glad we can all at least come together in our mutual worship of Lockon Stratos.

"I never knew a Haro could make me feel so depressed." So true. It was true back when it aired in 08 and stayed true when I watched the Blurays a few years ago. That is such a good scene.

Well lets say that season 2 will be more character driven. But I'm just a 00 fan boy who loves it. Most of the disparity in my mind comes from the lack of Technology, the three superpowers are fighting with muskets when Celestial being has automatic rifles and better body armour. Once the GN-X rolls around the technology hurdle is overcome and the Gundams are tested. The movie shows some thing that no other Gundam series to date has: "Mother fucking aliens!"

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that 00 was partially written as a response to what was going on in the middle east since it was written during the height of the war on terror. This is why the show deals with a lot themes much closer to the real world, like peace through violene, interventionism, and energy concerns. It was the first Gundam show I really watched back when it aired in the SciFi channel when they had an anime block. I loved it and was really the first tv show in general that I actually paid attention to the story.

I'm one of the people that started Gundam with the alternate universes , started with Seed and yes I'm aware of 'JesusYamato' and no I'm not a diehard cult member, and let me say that seed and destiny had it's BS moments too. 00 took me by surprise since it really had a true impact and how the viewer sees the entire plot unfold. After that I then started the UC timeline and it was awesome

I enjoyed how 00 chose to go with a more modern vision of the future, from its use of the AD timeline to having multiple superpowers and independent states all on Earth to involving the politics of energy. While having all of mankind unite and colonize the far reaches of the universe is really cool and I enjoy a lot of shows and films based around that idea, nobody really sees that as a world that's right around the corner anymore.

00 is my favourite and IMO the gundams being these overpowered destruction machines has to be the case for what the show is trying to accomplish. People will go to war. Stopping war is an ordeal. You can't be slightly better than someone if your goal is to stop all war. People lose battles every day. People have Pyrrhic victories every day. Both sides of a battle are not ever put in a situation where someone comes and slaughters both of them and the governments running them are told "Stop going to war and you will stop losing millions if not billions of dollars," Celestial Being can't have mobile suits that are just slightly better because that won't suffice. A slightly better robot than yours can be pressured and can be beat, this means you can still go to war with it. But a suit so much better than yours standing on your neck and saying "*I* will let you up when you promise to stop going to war, and not a moment sooner," that forces you to make a hard choice. It makes the choice to face Celestial Being suicide and the government's choice to throw away lives and money and get just get voted out by someone saying "We've lost too much fighting Celestial Being, let's not," While this doesn't happen in the anime, it's the intent behind fighting anyone going to war with great overwhelming force. The options have to be death or failure and that's what will stop war. Not people understanding each other, the understanding that if you go to war you will be spanked, humiliated and fail.

I think the worst offender in term of initial invulnerability is Wing and the worst offender in end-time invulnerability probably SEED... though newtype piloted psychoframe machines of the UC (like the Unicorn) are also guilty of this. In 00 in the beginning Gundams massively outperform anything else, but can be overcome with enough effort. You either need a super-talented pilot (like Ali Al Saaches) or a whole load of lesser units (like the HRL attack on the Ptolemy and especially the desert engagement where they needed to be saved by the Trinities), but it CAN work. And once the other factions get their hands on GN tech, it's a far more even playingfield. In SEED the suits are only semi-invulnerable on a timer, but run out of energy at some plot... I mean point. That is until they bring in the nuclear-powered suits and ruin the whole dynamic... also the rules of when certain weapons can penetrate active and charged phase shift armour are... shifting as the plot demands. Sometimes beam-sabers cut right through PSA, sometimes they glance off without damaging the suit. In Wing the suits start out literally invulnerable. Even shooting a Gundam for hours with regular guns will do nothing more than give the pilot a headache from the shacking and clangs. And once beam-weapons become widely used... which are for the most part used on AI controlled suits that are inferior to Human pilots, thus leaving the feeling of threat to the "hero-mech" duels. Out of the three series, I'd say 00 handled it best... if you ignore the movie. The movie is really different beast and I can see why some people like it and many do not. Though the way the movie start off was a brilliant idea in my opinion, which I wouldn't spoilt for the world. :D One thing that I found a refreshing change compared to other Gundam series though is that 00 didn't retread the usual "Earth vs. Colonies" foundation to the story that pretty much every Gundam series is based off of. I also like how there are far more factions. Apart from the usual setup of two major factions, plus the hero-faction and occasionally a neutral kingdom (like Orb), 00 has three major factions and multiple smaller ones like Caylon and the middle-eastern countries.. In those two regards 00 really breaks the mold that all the previous Gundam series have made.

Also Patrick is the best minor character in a Gundam change my mind

I always felt like Saji and Louise were a great foil for the "everyperson" in how the world making drastic changes around them impacts their lives and eventually them selves and relationships. Saji and Louise gave the show some much needed humanity and were the face for civilians.

BOOFIRE191: tells us the title of the game he playing in the background Me: THANK YOU

Just a future hint: Celestial Being trying to eradicate war and usher/boost the unification of the different world-nations in Season 1 is just one stage of Aeolia's grand plan. Season 2 will show you that there will be (big) bumps on the road of the said plan and then the movie will be the payoff of the plan. It is the "Dialogues to Come" as Aeolia mentioned in his speech in the very first episode of S1.

Lockon was an amazing character, one of the best in the entire franchise.

I'm personally a fan of both approaches to Gundam as long as they succeed at what their doing. 00 is unique in the fact that most of the staff, including the director, never worked on a Gundam series before and you can see that in the show, like how S1 is directly inspired by Wing while S2 by Zeta. But 00s success is that it has it's own identity while not feeling like a rip-off. Kind of the opposite of Seed which feels like a UC rip-off.

“Hasn’t seen season 2” oof. Mixed bag, prepare yourself, has great moments, but good god your in for some “personal conflict”

Don’t get high hopes for Wing, it is pretty much 00, but every strength that 00 managed to do with its story, is absent in Wing.

00 has two things going for it that you probably don't have context for, as you had to "be there", but- 1. It came out after the crushing disappointment of Seed Destiny, it basically had to restore the "good name" of Gundam and it succeeded by most measures (aside from commercial success in the West, but Gundam was already pretty nearly dead commercially overseas at that point anyhow.) 2. It's basically a better version of Wing. Remove nostalgia from the equation, and you can pretty much see that 00 does virtually everything Wing does, but much better and more believably. Wing is held in pretty high regard in most corners, but I feel like it's only because what it had to say about Gundam was new AT THE TIME. And it was the majority of the West's first exposure to Gundam as well, so of course people still love Wing. That said... again... 00 hits virtually all the same story beats and character archetypes as Wing and with a few exceptions, handles them with much more care and attention to detail.

I just finished watching both season and the movie a couple of days ago, it was actually my introduction to gundam and i absolutely adored it. Ive seen a lot of criticism towards gundam 00 and while i mostly agree with it i just cant deny how much invested i was in the series and how much fun i had with it. My main problem with gundam 00 would be the movie, its pretty weird. I enjoyed it but i feel like it lacks the kind of narrative that i loved so much in the first 2 seasons, characters were handled in a weird way and i feel like u could just stop watching at the end of the second season and that would be a better ending. But im really glad that u decided to make videos on it! looking forward to seeing u talking about the second season!

00 had some really good beats for me, though admittedly it was a let-down in many other ways. "Allelujah is just a good dude with some baggage" a staggering amount of baggage, really, and the split personality makes sense here, and lets him be that good dude, compartmentalizing what would otherwise be the utterly unviable amount of trauma he's been through My favorite part of S1, and what really ended up being the point of the whole season, was when the Meisters were almost, nearly denied total victory due to some absolutely brilliant strategy and crack piloting on the part of the opfor, which led every single one of them to nearly have a nervous breakdown as they had believed (justifiably) that they were utterly invincible. This leads to the actual secret reason for the existence of Celestial Being, that being to force the world powers to quit their petty squabbles and work together, the Meisters just had no idea that the plan was to force them to unite in order to stop the rampaging Gundams.