John Piper and Tim Keller Wrestle with Sanctification

One more thought on this topic. Think of a mother who has created with her own hands a beautiful flower garden of most precious and favorite flowers. Then one day she is in her home tending to a task when she is interrupted by dirty fist full of her flowers, uprooted and being offered to her with a loving smile by her child. Sure she owns the flowers already and did all of the work, but she smiles and accepts the loving intension. We are like children, in that we have nothing to give the One who created everything, even ourselves. However, if I can find a flower within myself or can blossom into something presentable, I owe it to my Creator. I sure hope I am the good enough soil for flowers to grow.

"if your faith is not producing love, it's not real." Amen!

"If you love me, you'll obey my commands." Justifying faith is a loving embrace of Christ. That same loving embrace yields loving obedience.

well that was a great 15 min. 2 of my favourite teachers having discussions. Thanks.

An easy way to explain the need for good works is simply, imagine you have a best friend. They’ve been there for you, they’ve had your back, they’ve helped you when you needed help and time after time they’ve shown their unconditional friendship and love for you. So in turn, you WANT to help your friend. And the best way to help your best friend, is to help his best friend. And who is his best friend. Everyone.

I get hyped more and more in my walk with Christ when i come across to brothers in faith chopping it up as most of us do on a day to day basis especially leaders with wisdom

I am here because I heard of this great man's death today (May 19, 2023). See you at the resurrection TK.

There is sorrow in my heart because pastor Tim is not here anymore with us, but I have joy and comfort that he is with Our Lord and Saviour

Wow, that 14 min. went by FAST! Can't get enough of this expository conversation and leadership with scriptural backing and reading assignments for the needy. Thanks for sharing!

I could listen to these two banter on forever.

the humility with which Pastor John speaks with his peer

Amazing teaching. .. "the beauty of the good." Praise GOD!"

Sanctification is the work of the Holy Spirit within the life of the believer to generate and develop Godly character and to carry out good works prepared by God. Justification is through faith and we express our faith through repentance or a turning away from sinful patterns (inner and outer).

oh Desiring God,what wld I do without this platform??🤗Thank you! !!

Thank you very much for taking time to talk about this. It's so easy to get caught on the wrong side. I needed to hear this.

This was such a great conversation! Piper and Keller are always so thoughtful!

Blessing to watch. Thank you!

It makes me happy when people talk about this topic and this style at the same time.

What a great conversation to be able to listen in on.

Wow, Keller still reads a lot to keep growing. So cool to see that come out in this great conversation.