REAL iMessage on Android - No Apple ID Needed!
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Published 2023-12-05
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A new app called Beeper Mini claims to seamlessly integrate iMessage functionality on Android devices, potentially revolutionizing cross-platform messaging. Developed from the open-source project pypush by a high school student and supported by Pebble founder Eric Migicovsky, this app promises secure and direct messaging without requiring user's Apple ID credentials. However, it raises questions about its legitimacy and compliance with Apple's policies, especially considering the controversies surrounding previous attempts like Sunbird and Nothing Chats. As Beeper Mini enters the market, it remains to be seen whether this ambitious endeavor will truly deliver a reliable iMessage experience for Android users or encounter resistance from Apple.
0:00 iMessage has been reverse-engineered
1:12 "Beeper Mini" does everything client-side
2:51 A high-school student outsmarted Apple
3:40 How does iMessage actually work?
4:55 WTF is a "validation data blob?"
5:38 Apple isn't likely to patch this "exploit"
7:13 Using iMessage on Linux
7:51 Registering Android phone numbers directly
8:30 Handling notifications...
9:47 It's pretty much just like the real iMessage!
11:28 Today, it's iMessage-only
11:53 Uh... is this legal?
12:37 Hot take: this is good for Apple users!
13:32 RCS is coming to iOS—doesn't matter
14:05 A word of caution...
14:41 Idgaf about WhatsApp
All Comments (21)
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Welp, it looks like Apple has already killed Beeper Mini. This happened significantly faster than I (certainly Eric and the Beeper team) ever expected. It was communicated to me that it would be rather difficult for Apple to shut this down and this has proven to be, well, not true. The Beeper team last week told me that if Apple were to block their current workaround, they'd still have a few other tricks up their sleeve, but if this blocking by Apple was intentional (and that appears to be the case) it'll happen again. And no business/service can be based on a cat-and-mouse game. It's a bummer it happened and I was hoping Beeper Mini would last long enough to indicate to Apple that it should exist officially on Android for the betterment of their own users' experience, but that appears to not be the case and that's a shame.
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As a non american, it's weird and kind of fascinating to see how much of a deal this is. It's like a social experiment on social exclusion on a national level.
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Top-notch video, bud. Nice to see what the guts of an app like this (likely) look like!
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This reminds me of when Rubinstein reverse-engineered iTunes so Android could sync directly with iTunes. Of course, Apple changed a few little things to break Android from using it.
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Interesting! I always wondered how hard it would be to reverse engineer how iMessage works, cool someone actually did it
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This is a nice compromise to at least alleviate the green/blue bubbles debate. It seems secure and it uses Apple’s own signing services. Not 100% bulletproof but better than Nothing Chats
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Using it now - It works fantastic, once they port over RCS & other chat apps, I will 100% switch fully!
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Bro ur not gonna believe this
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Enormously pleased this wasn’t sponsored. Fascinating video. Well done all around.
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This is cool. Feels like Hackintosh days.
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This is hilarious, how Apple managed to get entire businesses rise and fall because they decided to tint their messages blue and green.
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Amazing video and great explaning. These videos remind me why I love watching this channel. Bringing up cool tech and explain the details on why this method is more secure in a way an average tech who is not a developer can understand.
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This aged poorly.
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Excellent video! Thank you for taking the time to explain everything in detail. Appreciate all your hard work on this!
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The one thing I will say about their fear of losing customers if they supported cross platform. Obviously we’ll never know, and it could have turned out really well, but as someone who went to high school in the US in the iPhone age, the iMessage bullying into getting iPhones was real. Freshman year, probably 3/12 people in my friend group had androids. By senior year it was down to one, and now even he has switched. The biggest inconvenience with androids by far is messaging, especially the group chat thing. 87% of U.S. teens have iPhones, so obviously something’s working. I am genuinely glad to see RCS and breakthroughs like this being made though, because it makes things better for everyone except the 3 trillion dollar company
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This is nuts, and I'm so glad you get to make this exclusive. I mean look at that demo @ 3:31! You are no doubt the most savvy+opinionated+genuine creator in this space and I always appreciate it SO much when you share your thoughts here or elsewhere
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Great video, well explained. It's a crazy reflection on society that such malice and manipulative intent from the richest company isn't simply given the middle finger by everyone. Or maybe a reflection on a selection the consumer/users 🤷♂️🤦♂️
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If I were Apple and I saw this, the first thing I did would be to try and hire JJTech. That kid is going places
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Snazzy you are seriously the best tech content creator I know. Its crazy the amount of research and things you do off camera to educate your self and to educate us. Great videos dude! :-)
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I still don't know anyone that actually uses imessage, but it is rather interesting to see people break through it.