The Lost Potential Of Lilly Singh - A Late Night Legacy | TRO
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The Right Opinion: The Lost Potential Of Lilly Singh - A Late Night Legacy | TRO
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0:00:00 - Intro
0:08:27 - Origins
0:14:14 - Global
0:20:07 - Talk Show
0:26:13 - A Little Late
0:32:44 - Viral
0:39:18 - Negativity
0:48:48 - Renewal
0:55:46 - Season 2
1:02:53 - Cancellation
1:09:35 - Too Little, Too Late
1:15:58 - First Impressions
1:22:29 - A Little Taste
1:30:27 - Outro
YouTubers… Although there are certainly a lot of them to choose from, many would at least say the largest creators on the platform are comparable to the everyday Hollywood celebrity.
This seems increasingly accurate as the platform continues to manifest and evolve larger and larger channels, headed by figures who have become identifiable to even those without a passing interest in the video-hosting website. YouTube isn’t like mainstream media though, many figureheads are not handpicked, and many have much more centralised control of their content and their vision than certain personages who may be subject to studios and investors. For many, this is what makes YouTube such a good platform to launch one’s career, as success is almost exclusively decided by the audience who watch it. However, on the other hand, YouTube is still a very small tranche of media as a whole, and many who achieve the treasured status of mega-influencer often begin to look beyond the realms of the platform to further their career. In many ways this should be a recipe for success, the personal relationship that many creators produce with their channel often gives them a fanbase much more dedicated than that of the average celebutante. They’ve already crafted a multimillion subscriber channel from a very limited set of resources, imagine what they could do with the sort of financial backing that many of these large corporations can provide. Think of all the wondrous creations that could be brought into being…
It’s strange really, because in spite of the numerous attempts to bring popular YouTubers into the mainstream sphere, a proportionally low number have actually succeeded. There are a few large musicians and comedians who had their start on the video sharing platform, which makes sense in a way as they’re also occupations which can command an exceptionally dedicated fanbase, but besides this many creators trying to spread their wings have been met with limited prosperity outside of their comfort zone. Why is this often the case?
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I'm really glad that instead of touching kids or scamming people she was just not that entertaining. A breath of fresh air in the current youtube ecosystem
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You know what. At least Lilly didn’t commit the usual YouTube creator scandal of being creepy (or worse) towards children. Gotta hand it to her, it’s a lot better to go out on the basis of your talent not transferring well to another medium than on the basis of being a horrible person.
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I’m guessing, since this is being reuploaded, Lilly Singh probably didn’t like being criticized and attempted to abuse the copyright system.
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I honestly think Lily could have been an actress in a sitcom (either for younger audiences like That's So Raven or older audiences like Friends) because she had a lot of personality, decent comedic timing, and spunk. The videos where she played characters showed she could do physical acting and theatrical comedic acting. I honestly think staring or co-staring in a sitcom would have suited her more than a talk show.
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as someone who's also a femme of color, i understand that lily's identity is very significant but it doesn't help any community when her identity becomes her whole personality
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you don't have to ask me again to watch it again, i like your docs cause they're really nice for when i want to just not think and listen for an hour+ LOL
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Yes, I've always felt that she ended up centering whiteness in her show rather than celebrating her own heritage. Talking about how not white and not male you are is centering whiteness and maleness in the conversation.
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I was subscribed to her a long time ago. Then she went mainstream and basically ignored her Youtube channel. Which was a very bad move, given that almost none of her core audience watched TV. I pretty much just forgot she existed really.
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I think part of Lily's problem was leaning so hard on her identity for her humor -- it's not that it can't be funny, or even that she was never funny doing it, but her delivery didn't so much invite you to laugh with her as much as it challenged you to laugh with her, and late night viewers don't want to be challenged. I know at 1am I'm usually not in the mood to check my privilege.
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Reposting my comment from the original: As a Punjabi-Canadian who grew up with her content but outgrew the humour, I've been following commentary/critique videos made about her talk show. This is, by far, the most comprehensive and thoughtful video on the matter. Everyone I've seen criticizing the show were non-Indians who only saw it as cringe YouTuber humour (which is true, to a degree, but there is more to talk about here). This TRO video took into account absolutely everything - the intended audience, the fact that those critiquing the talk show were not the intended audience but the humour in the show became repetitive and fell flat for the intended audience regardless, that the way the show came across made it seem as though it was intended for a white guilt audience. The other videos I've seen critiquing her show were really just calling the humour cringe and repetitive, which doesn't actually touch on or critique anything. Of course the humour is cringe. Lilly's humour is cringe. Her fanbase engages with it and she's a millennial. That's what's going to be in her show. But, at least at the beginning, it did also seem as though it was a team of writers that knew nothing about her other than her identity on the surface level. It seems like when she had the reigns, she did more interesting things than the writers knew to do.
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My only encounter with her was as a character in the show doll face, and she was actually pretty good in the role I had no idea it was lily Singh. I think she probably could have a decent careers as a voice and character actor
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"I'm a bi woman of color. And also I'm a bi woman of color. Did I mention I'm a bi woman of color? Because I'm a bi woman of color. And that's why people hate me, because I'm a bi woman of color."
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I remember watching that first episode. She started off with her 'joke' about white people not being used to seeing someone of color on their television as if it was the 1950s. How old did she think her audience was? 80? 90?
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Okay fine, I’ll watch it again
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The only thing I remember is her constantly opening up saying she's a bisexual woman of color, Like we get it lol
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I don't know Lilly's content but from what I could tell she was already successful before her talk show. I don't look down on her for wanting more, but I feel like sometimes youtubers don't count their success on YT as a "real" success. Which makes me kinda sad. It's hard to find success on YT, I'd say any success is on YT is phenomenal.
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She had so much potential. I see how influential and funny Dutch, female comedians are. She could have been that too. Just not as a talkshow host. I never saw Lilly as a talkshow host at all. And not for an 'adult' audience.
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The copyright strike sucks big time, loved the video. Keep up the great work!
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she’s never been nor is my type of humour, but she genuinely seems like she puts in the work + hustle of it all. I reckon most of us could only wish that we could gain even just half of the notoriety and success that she achieved.
