Ep. 323 | .223 Rem vs .300 Blackout — Enough Knockdown for Deer?

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Published 2024-01-22
Varmints, to home defense and military applications, the .223 Remington and .300 AAC Blackout aren’t your typical deer cartridges. But in the right scenario, are they the perfect solution? And if so, which is better? Mark Boardman and Ryan Muckenhirn took a couple blasters to the range and shot gel to find out. Here’s the rest of the story.

00:00 - Intro
6:41 - Velocity and Barnes Bullets
12:42 - Federal Fusion Bullet
16:14 - Federal Power-Shok
18:20 - .223 vs .300 AAC: The Test
31:45 - Retained Weight - Lead .223
39:10 - Retained Weigh - Lead .300 AAC
42:30 - Copper Bullets - The Results
44:23 - Retained Weight - Copper .223 and Copper .300 AAC
48:57 - Recap and Closing Thoughts

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All Comments (21)
  • I took a big doe with a .300 Blackout two seasons ago using the Barnes 110 gr Tac-TX out of a 16" barrel. The shot was 50-60 yards, double-lung, hit ribs in and out, no shoulder. Tiny entrance, big internal damage, and an exit that looked like it was caused by a small broadhead. The deer ran about 20 yards, then staggered 10 more until it laid down. The blood trail was thick. I would use it again without hesitation. I also took a coyote with it the day before using it on a deer. The coyote went belly up and was DRT. Edit: By the way, the round was a handload. My muzzle velocity was right at 2400 fps.
  • @HB-kp6rl
    Id like to see a 6.5 grendel vs a 6 arc. Or a 300 black vs 762x39. Food for thought
  • @Mr.Run-n-Gun
    I have used 300 BLK, suppressed, with the Barnes 110 Tac TX for multiple deer. The only reason I don't still use it is my 14 year old son likes it for every reason I liked it. Portable, quiet, easy to use from a tree stand. I couldn't be happier watching my son enjoy the outdoors!
  • @DawsonsDesigns82
    I picked up a ruger american in 300blk for practice shooting and man it shoots 110 vmax bullets amazing. Regularly can do half moa groups with it. Blows my mind how great cheap guns can be
  • @mattcomchoc2957
    Dang right somebody is gonna throw 6.8SPC in the comments. Prolly be a Texan on top of that! it suppresses great, was designed for shorter barrels, and since going more than about 150yds with a thermal is sketchy, it's the perfect choice for reliability and energy out of an AR-15 pattern carbine y'all should get Todd Huey from Lone Star Boars on here sometime to talk about the "Jihog"
  • @rossarnett8079
    77gr Sierra Match King is absolutely amazing on deer. It doesn’t get talked about much because it’s a “target” round but it is absolutely devastating on deer. Ive shot deer from 50 yards to 280 yards with that round, all of which dropped very quickly after impact That’s pretty much my go to for whitetail now
  • @brenn330
    Ryan, I use the Barnes 110 Tac-TX. 10" barrel with a can. Shots have been between 15-125 yards. All did the trick very well on whitetail.
  • @rms0719
    my boy (13) loves a little .222 that was left to me years ago but he wanted to go on an axis hunt this year and bought him a 300 blk. one doe, double lung from 40 yards went 20 feet and looked like someone dumped a 5 gallon bucket of red paint from shot site to where she laid. got a buck from 95 yards and had him take a high shoulder and anchored him right there. found the bullet just under the skin on the other side. both was a 110 grain hornady cx. both of us have come to love the little gun and long as its within reasonable range it does its job well.
  • @Bshwag
    I would rely like to see 6.5 grendel vs 6mm arc vs 22arc
  • @OutlawGRUNT
    After watching this video, I’m even more confident with the 62gr Federal bonded bullets!
  • @Stakkatoking
    I just got a box of the 62gr Fusion 2 days ago. They shoot fine on paper. I'm in Europe and use my .223 with 55gr bullets for predators and roe deer, which is about a quarter the weight of white-tail apparently. In most jurisdictions here .223 would be illegal for anything larger, e.g. red deer. Here in Germany the requirement for roe is >1000J at 100m (very roughly 800 ft lb @ 100 yards?). I want to go up from the very common 55gr (lead) bullets to reduce velocity at shorter ranges to minimize meat damage (hematomas), and to retain energy at "longer" ranges of 100-200m.
  • @HB-kp6rl
    Mark has good some solid choices on bullet retention weights. I remember the episode he was spot on both cartridges
  • @dukedenarie5858
    Congratulations on your YouTube plaque! I was just thinking the other day that you should be there soon. This appears to be a bit belated.
  • Took an 8pt buck this year for the first time with my Ruger Ranch in 300blk using Winchester 150gr XP. Complete pass through at 75 yards, placed right behind the shoulder. Entered directly into a rib and had a tumble oriented exit wound. Regardless, resulted in less than 50 yards of tracking. One concern was that there was no blood trail whatsoever. However, where he expired, blood was flowing down the edge of the mountain in a staggering amount. Overall I’d call it success, but still concerning. Having only one sample to base my analysis, I’d like to confirm clean lethality one more time before allowing my 7 year old to use this as his first deer rifle. Great Video!
  • @hghunter44
    I have had good luck with the Barnes 110grain TAC-TX on deer. I have used the Barnes 55 grain TTSX in my 22-250 for deer as well.
  • @robertsebacher44
    Why not go with 350 legend? You can hunt in straight wall states and move up to 30:30 ballistics. It fits in a AR 15.
  • @jaredlee9525
    Took 2 doe this year with a 14.5” and a 16” ar…75 gr Hornady frontier the 14.5” was at 25 yards phenomenal performance…the second was at 165 yards and both were extremely effective!!! First dropped in her tracks (high shoulder shot) second ran 20 yards and fell (double lung)!!!