2020 NEC Article 230 changes

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Published 2019-06-15
Changes to Article 230 in the 2020 National Electrical Code

All Comments (21)
  • @zandemen
    Don't know why someone would be crying about a surge protector. They're fairly cheap, and easy to install. I put one in my house six years ago, and not only has it protected all my devices, it kept the aliens from attacking.
  • @PowderMill
    An ancient sparky says "Ryan = The New Mike Holt"! Thank you for you content. Your videos are great. As a retired volunteer firefighter/medic from the People's Republic of NJ 230.85 is GREAT! No more pulling ENERGIZED meters !! No more 2-hour waits for utility company arrival. Fantastic!!
  • @scotthowick1597
    I am a new apprentice with Hunt electric. Thanks for your clarification and experience. It helps me substantially with my schooling as well.
  • @SillyPutty3700
    230.71 makes perfect sense to me and I have been practicing it for about 10 years. About 10 years ago I upgraded the service at a uniform laundry plant. The engineer in an effort to save money for the client did not call for a main in the MDP but rather 3 breakers feeding 2 other panels and a 480-120/240 delta high leg XFMR to feed legacy loads. Sure as hell literally the week after we were done the owner decided to change their compressors from 240v to new more efficient 480v units and they were 20' from the new MDP. Engineer says no problem lets add 2 more 100a breakers to the MDP we are still under six disconnects. A stand by outage for Florida Power & Light costs about $1200 on off hours. Yea leaving that main out saved them money I am sure.
  • @10Flat
    I’ve watched several of your videos and couldn’t shake where I have seen you before. Than it hit me. Mike Holt code training. Nice work. Keep it going into the next generation.
  • Thanks for the info, you explained everything that I need it to know better in 30 min than the seminar that I took.
  • @wiregirl
    I have attended training classes for a company named Southern Cross, a subcontractor for Duke Energy that replaces residential and commercial meters with smart meters. I was amazed that they do not train the employees to shut down the load side of the meter base in removing and replacing it, but instead would equip the employee with a regular hard hat mounted face shield, 1000 volt rated rubber gloves over leather gloves, safety glasses and flame retardant clothing. They would work the employees rain or shine and there was a quota that each employee was expected to install, and punch in the meter information on a Trimble. These employees had no training in arc related safety at all. No rain coats either, and when it rained, everything got fogged up and the gloves would get soaked, not to mention your entire body.. Manyof the old houses in North Carolina do not have outside disconnects. I am happy to see that the code has changed, but still nobody is out there inspecting the existing old homes that have outdated services, no ground, old meter bases and frayed sec with exposed concentric. Who regulates this? When a service is hit by a tree during a storm, the duke subcontractor comes by and just nails it back up to the building. It never gets inspected by an ahj or the Fire Marshall to be upgraded after a natural disaster .I am a state licensed electrician and of course lol didn’t last long at Southern Cross, after running in the pouring rain house to house and feeling the tingle from the meter bases just to make quota. Finally one day I tossed the Trimble in the center console of the truck while soaking wet, collected the safety cones from front and back of the truck, tossed the gloves on the dash to dry off, jumped in the truck and slammed the center lid down in the Trimble. That didn’t go over well.. twenty minutes later I had a foreman position with a builder.
  • @hangngoaigiare
    great job Ryan. I watched you a lot on Mike Videos. It very helpful you have real world equipment pictures here to demonstrate it make understand things easily. Thank you very much
  • Thank you for posting this most important information. It's appreciated! Good presentation as well!
  • @j.w.2093
    Minute 8.06 - Section 230.62 - I agree this guarding makes sense and improves personnel safety. However, to me it can't be said that it in itself meets NFPA70E, because the insulators/guards only provide shock protection and may reduce the potential for an arc blast, but don't eliminate it. So I think that the person is still required to have the same justifications for live work and to take the same arc flash prevention precautions.
  • @DavidM-mv3jy
    What a great video, you are so clear and easy to understand.!
  • @larryrola152
    Thank Ryan. Jersey just adopted the 2020 in October and I’m just starting to have to deal with it. I have a 4 position meter stack to replace and I’m guessing I’ll need a disconnect now. There is no room for this disconnect. I’ll be consulting the AHJ for an opinion on this. Also bidding my first house with the new rules and I’m guessing I’ll be consulting that AHJ also. Question though, your meter/disconnect at the end of the video had multiple breakers in it. It did not look like the breaker marked service/emg disconnect would shut down everything
  • @SillyPutty3700
    230.85 is for 1st responders. Yep but in central FL we have had this rule for 35 years and 1st responders are still trained in this area not to enter a structure until utility says it is de-energized, which means the jacks at the transformer have been pulled or the lateral cut.
  • @kendorney1628
    Move to Colorado we’re required to cold sequence the meter on commercial services, AND install meter bypasses on them so would that be considered a service disconnect? We are also required to install meter bypasses on everything else... I believe Texas is required to also.
  • @chuckrossjr2400
    Great video, I heard that 230.85 was coming. Will effect all of us in Maryland.