Is Geeta ACTUALLY The WEAKEST Pokemon Champion?

The real problem is the order of her team. Toxic spikes are beneficial on your LEAD, not your last Pokémon. And Supreme Overlord gives Kingambit more power, the more allies are down. So why not have that as your ace, in last place???

Really, the only thing that Geeta did was make me wonder just how strong Nemona truly is. She held back against the top champion of the region, and STILL won. Granted, Geeta's underwhelming team, but still. I want to know what Nemona's true power is cause the final fight against her is just made up of pokemon she caught during the player's journey to be on 'our level'.

My current personal theories on Geeta: 1.) She fought us with a deliberately weak and poorly ordered team because she wanted us to become a Champion so that she'd have someone more competent to ask favors of instead of Nemona, who was really only competent in regard to battling. 2.) Her ace being Glimmora, a Pokemon that, while looking like some sort of crystal flower in appearance, spreads toxic barbs all over the place when directly interacted with, combined with the fact that a majority of the Gym Leaders either don't like her and/or are intimidated by her, may imply that behind that super-professional persona she has going is a rather, well, toxic person.

If they made Geeta an secret villain via the DLC and make her have a better team, then she's going to be the best Champion character wise. Especially since you realise that Geeta is basically running the League and region like a business and business types are usually revealed to be the villain. Plus the gym leaders reveal to not like her. She also knows what happened in Area Zero as Nemona commented the Glimmora she uses is from there. It's possible she's the one who funded Sada/Turo's research and cover up what really happened there. Plus the fact that a Pokémon Champion can be the region's villain is just juicy.

what really does it for me is that she says she is “incapable of holding back” in a battle. if she didn’t say that, we could assume she wasn’t using her team optimally bc she’s fighting against a kid. but no, this was Geeta at full strength.

Considering the sucker punch Volo gave us in the post-game, I wouldn't be surprised if we get another bait-and-switch with Geeta revealing her actual team, but probably just a crackpot theory

The funny thing is, Skeledirge can still sweep even with the water and rock types, as long as it has shadow ball, earth power, and of course torch song.

This feels like the perfect place to give my personal theory about Geeta! Outside of half of the gym leaders not really caring for her (And Larry outright disliking her), we don't really have any indication of who she is as a person. You brought up the idea that she almost came off as AI like or robotic, but personally, I think her ace pokemon Glimmora is the issue here. Sure, pokemon do tend to design SOME of their characters with aspects of their ace pokemon, but something about how Glimmora itself is portrayed in game makes me think it might actually be controlling Geeta in a situation like Lusamine with Nihilego. It's in the eyes for me. In game, Geeta's got a yellow eye shine that looks very much like Glimmora's eyes rather than the regular white eye shine every one else has. Glimmora is a rock/poison type like Nihilego, who used its poison to control its host, altering their appearance in a small (or larger) way to indicate that poison control. In my time exploring the Great Crater, I've been able to find 4 out of Geeta's 6 pokemon that spawn there. This may not be that significant since three of them can be found in high numbers outside of the crater, but only Glimmora is exclusive to the crater. Glimmora is heavily hinted to be where tera crystals come from that allow terastalization to occur. All the logs except for a pokedex entry are smudged (whether they are Sada/Turo's personal diaries you can find laying around the research stations in Area Zero, or that one entry in the Scarlet/Violet book with all the smudges in it. The picture on the side, as well as what can be inferred from the words blurred out, definitely hint towards Glimmora being this pokemon.) Why the smudges? Unless either someone or something wanted Glimmora's true nature to be kept secret. The tera crystals themselves are said in game to alter the functions of living things, most commonly seen in changing up a pokemon's typing, but also seen more in how Sada/Turo were driven mad in the Great Crater in becoming increasingly more and more obsessive with their research on the crystals and blind to anything else outside of it. The AI version of the professor is made as a copy of all the knowledge and thought processes of the former professor, yet they don't think the professor's research should be allowed to continue. The only difference between them is one is organic and the other is mechanic. Tera crystals fully optimize machinery, allowing for the construction of the time machine as well as developing an AI, but it simply alters the function of living things. I think Sada/Turo had such prolonged exposure to the crystals (made by Glimmora) that it altered their mind state. Even for the short period they left the crater, they were still hyper focused on going back to study the crystals more. I also believe Heath, the guy who wrote the Scarlet/Violet book had hallucinations due to exposure to either the crystals in Area Zero or his encounter with what's hinted to be Glimmora. Glimmora being what makes the tera crystals, I believe it makes it out of its poison. Poison can cause hallucinatory symptoms as well as slowly eat away at someone from the inside out depending on the poison. (As seen with difference between real professor and AI professor) Glimmora only spawns in the Great Crater. Glimmet spawns in the over world, sure, but it's rare, and I personally don't think they were native to the areas they can be found in. I think Geeta, in an attempt to make terastalization more accessible, wanted to implant Glimmet in caves around Paldea so they'd produce crystals they'd be able to access outside of Area Zero. Either that, or a Glimmora controlled Geeta used that as the reasoning like how Indoctrination in the original Mass Effect game was used as a means to subtly get a host to do its bidding while making them think they were in control. (I also believe Geeta could've taken a specimen of Great Tusk/Iron Treads out into one of Donphan's native habitats to see if it could integrate because there's no actual holes in the Great Crater to suggest that the past/future Donphan escaped or broke through). The only way you can make the move tera blast is with Glimmet Crystals, and the only place you can find tera blast as a TM is amongst all the crystals at the bottom of Area Zero... or when Geeta gives them to you. Presumably, she was able to make these TMs to give out using the crystals she could get from Glimmora. I don't know whether I shouldn't trust Geeta, or whether I shouldn't trust Glimmora. There's definitely more going on than the game's letting on, but whether or not we get any answers is entirely dependent on how the DLC is for this game.

I’m here to confirm that after 5 torch songs and a terra boost Glimmora will not stop your Skeliderge sweep.

I think she's intentionally weak. Suspiciously so. I personally treat Nemona as the real champion battle and the AI professors were the real final bosses. But I do think Geeta is really suspicious and will play a bigger role in the DLCs. Also interesting theory I saw that tries to explain Geeta's weird team is that each of her pokemon represent a part of the region: - kingambit is the bamboo forest in north east - Veluza is ocean and/or big lake - Glimora is Area 0 - Gogoat is the fields in the south east - Espathra is desert in the west - Avalug is snowy mountain in the north 🤷‍♂

11:02 HOLY CRAP, thank GOD someone else noticed this. As I was going through the battle, I was super upset when 5 of her Pokémon are weak to a starter. I really don't know what they were thinking with Geeta. Arven gave me much more trouble, and they directly state that he's "bad at Pokémon battles".

You know what would have really made her battle stand out in the series? Keeping glenmora as her Ace but also having it be the first Pokémon she sends out... just like how Geeta's job is to run the league, her Ace's job is to set up the rest of the team for success. And just like that I've managed to open up a brand new world for potential Champion team design, you're welcome

She’s definitely gonna have something to do with the DLC, if not specifically the third legendary, considering her ace being only native to Area Zero (not counting the pre-evo)

She really is something. She has the charisma of a Bruxish, the uniqueness of a Simisear, the nerve... she really had the nerve to use that table avalugg, and the talent... is there, you just have to find it.

Credit to SmithPlays Pokemon for the bones of this improved team for Geeta: 1. Palafin - her lead, which stays in just long enough to use Flip Turn to switch into Glimmora. Later in the battle she sends it back out with its ridiculous Hero stats to soften/clean up your team ahead of Kingambit. 2. Glimmora - switched into from Palafin, hopefully to take a physical attack to trigger Toxic Debris. Still has Toxic Spikes as a move to set the field and poison your team. 3. Bombirdier - really could be any Pokemon capable of using Whirlwind or even Roar. It's meant to fill the same niche as Braviary from Professor Kukui's team and forcibly switch your team into the entry hazard Toxic Spikes. Yes I'm aware Bombirdier was already featured in the Path of Legends, but it's also a Gen IX Mon that can learn Whirlwind via Level Up. If it has its Hidden Ability of Rocky Payload, it could even have a Rock-type move as a changeup. 4. Armarouge/Ceruledge - which one depends on the version of the game you're playing. Besides providing some variety between versions, this mainly gets her the offensive utility of Fire, along with whichever secondary typing it has. Could in theory act as the first sweeper of her team. 5. Toedscruel - if for whatever reason the player has managed to clear the Toxic Spikes, Toedscruel can use Mycelium Might to hit the player with unstoppable status moves. Otherwise it could just use Leech Seed to chip away at players' Pokemon while healing itself, or the more straightforward Giga Drain. Its Ground-typing and a move like Earth Power also helps it check Electric-types players could have brought for Palafin and Bombirdier. The only 4x weakness Toedscruel has is Ice, which is vulnerable to 3 Mons on this revised team. Toedscruel also gives Geeta's team some Convergent Evolution Mon representation. 6. Kingambit - too many have said why this just makes sense. I think a team like this is much more of a Champion-level challenge, and the competitive strategies it employs would better fit Geeta's statement about being completely incapable of holding back.

Arvens team gave me more trouble than Geetas did...I barley survived 😅

Honestly, I haven't seen a glimora by the time Geeta showed up, so my first thought was that her hair resembles malamar. If looking like glimmora is the reason her ace is one, they should've changed her design. Imo She should open with palafin and her AI be set to use flip turn turn 1 (2 if the move fails) and send out glimmora. This way, palafin would be back in his hero form and glimmora might be able to set one layer of toxic spikes. The ace should be kimgambit, she would terastalize it and it would lose the 4x weakness to fighting. As for the rest, maybe gholdengo, arboliva and armarouge if Scarlet or ceruledge if Violet.

She’s probably the only champion that doesn’t make people invest in her. Cynthia for example has likes and interests we learn in the games, she loves exploring ruins and ice cream. Hell even Leon was interesting just for being the youngest champion next to Blue/Red and that he was present throughout so much of swsh. All of the champions were involved somewhat in the stories and we got to know them before we inevitably fought them for their position.

It's occurred to me that if there was a particular in-game reason that Geeta had an Avalugg on her team, then it maybe should have been a Hisuian Avalugg, the only one in the game, as a surprise, in keeping with and as a hint to the Time-Travel aspect of Pokemon Scarlet & Violet, if that makes any sense, hmm?

She might have suddenly been worried about you making your way all the way there. She has said several times that she is surprised that someone had made it this far. She might be silently panicking about how she is supposed to be the strongest, when you show up and sweep all her workers (gym leaders). She might be acting confident while silently panicking, so she forgets her OG team order, to basically throw things at you to see if your pokemon will go down.