The Rogue Thief: PF2e #2

Errata: In the original printing of the Core Rulebook, Disrupt Prey is a free action, but looks like it was changed to be a reaction. Doesn't change my mind about its value :).

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The best part of your videos is the way you talk through your thought process. You weigh alternatives and justify the decisions you make. This is so much more helpful than just claiming to make a "best choice" about everything. Keep up the awesome Pathfinder videos!

16:18 it’s worth noting that the goblin weapon feat gives you Access to goblin weapons. A character who has Access/meets the listed Access conditions for an uncommon item/feat/spell etc gets to treat it as common, so no GM permission needed for the weapons.

Your intuition about access to uncommon weapons is actually spot on. Most (all?) of the ancestral weapon familiarity feats have a similar wording included as the Goblin Weapon Familiarity feat: "In addition, you gain access to all uncommon goblin weapons."

LOVE the support Colby. Thanks so much!

I of course LOVE you doing more Pathfinder content! Will watch the full ep as soon as I get a chance. Wanna comment that SAD builds are not as AS essential in PF2, since PF2 is much more generous with ability score increases (after Level 1 you get 16 ASIs which by default give a +2 each until a score reaches 18), so at least by Level 5 you can have an 18 Strength AND 18 Dexterity. This awesomely makes the other rogue rackets eventually equal/competitive in DPR. I really like the theme of the Ruffian rogue and wish other games expressed it more. You're a strongarm bully AND you knock people prone and don't play fair!

1. Disrupt Prey is, in fact, a Reaction. It's still a good option, since you will have more triggers available for extra strikes. 2. The main difference in damage between the level 6 report and the level 9 would be the access to Elemental Runes which add 1d6 elemental damage to your attacks (Fire, Electric, Cold, Sonic, Acid) or similar runes (Serrating). 3. There's also a few things to take into account, since certain level thresholds make monsters stronger than they normally would be in a linear progression. These levels are, not by coincidence, the same levels when PCs get their Stat Boosts. Which is one of the main reasons why it's slightly more dangerous to use Extreme Boss Encounters with creatures at these levels. 4. As a suggestion from someone that has created hundreds of builds in this game already (I know, it's a problem!), the power spikes from classes are around their offensive proficiency increases (Expert at 5th and Master at 13th level) and with the Striking Runes levels (Striking at 4th and Greater Striking At 12th level). Personally, I craft my character builds until around 10th level, sometimes 13th. You get a solid grasp on your build already with everything pretty much coming online by then and, at higher levels, you'll have plenty of experience with this character to chose higher level feats appropriated to them. Anyway, great content as always. If more players were as willing to learn a new system as yourself, PF2e's strengths would definitely be more well known.

Loving the pf2e builds! I am so excited for you to get into the Advanced Players Guide. That book opens up entirely new realms of customization.

Something that I think could be worth noting is that the Gamemastery Guide actually cautions GMs against the multiclass resiliency feats (like ranger's resiliency) when using Free Archetype. It specifically advices that GMs only let players benefit from a number of these feats equal to half their level. This is to prevent players from double dipping by taking archetype feats with both their main class feats and their free archetype feats to gain large amounts of extra HP. (GMG pg. 194)

another great thing with hunt prey from ranger dedication is " You also ignore the penalty for making ranged attacks within your second range increment against the prey you’re hunting." This is amazing for thrown weapon builds, but still possibly relevant with other ranged weapons.

Very excited to see this series go past the Core Rulebook. Once you start getting into the weirder archetypes that aren't just multiclassing, that's when things really get my gears turning.

Nice to see the series of pf2e builds continuing. A lot of other dnd channels currently are just doing their own intro to pf2e series so its nice to see someone doing a deep dive instead.

FYI, as a guy who has played a LOT of pathfinder, I see people take Trapspotter all the time. First of all, it lets you stealth and still spot traps, and secondly, according to some readings, it lets you get two secret rolls to spot traps if you are perceiving. One for seeking and one for your 'spidey sense for traps.' Very useful. Very underrated.

I realized another thing that I love about PF2 while watching this video. I guess I always knew this at some subconscious level, but this video brought it to the front of my mind. Even though you're building to optimize one thing, which is damage in his case, there's so much other things available that you can't not take some of the other things that are useful in other parts of the concept (iow not the core optimization goal), while still staying on theme and optimized.

I liked that you took a moment to talk about the possibility of the “flat” progression that might have happened with other choices. That’s actually what I love about this system: the power difference between builds is noticeable, but if you have players that aren’t optimizers they aren’t falling drastically behind. I think PF2 threads that needle well.

Amazing! Just building a thief for a game this week. Synchronicity!

Yay! I love that you're going into Pathfinder more. I'm going to be addicted to your Channel because I'm learning Pathfinder myself as a DM and I'm introducing about five new people to it. I may even go down to the local game store and host some westmarch style games

I’m here for every single piece of Pathfinder content you’ve got!

I'm personally a big fan of ruffian rogue, get sentinel dedication for that heavy armor proficiency, pick up a longspear and go around cosplaying as a fighter while making use of all the fun feats rogue gets. It really makes you think of rogue in a different light compared to the usual sneaky assassin or burglar type character.