The DroneTag broadcast RID module (the cheapest option?)

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Published 2023-05-10
If you fly a drone or RC plane in the USA then as of 16 September 2023 then you will probably need to fit a broadcast remote ID module to it. DroneTag have come up with their 'Basic Solution' unit which is a pared-to-the-bone option but unless you buy it on special, it is almost exactly twice the price the FAA quoted as their expected figure for such things.

Hopefully I'll get my hands on one of these and check out whether the GPS antenna is good enough to allow it to double as a source of GPS for your flight controller and whether there are any "gotchas".

This is the Drone & Sundry livestream in which the developer speaks about the DroneTag BS unit:
   • Drone Stuff This Week 9th May 2023  

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All Comments (21)
  • @iforce2d
    GPS sats are actually 20,000km away, it's amazing our cheap little receivers work at all
  • @mpojr
    thanks AMA you did a great job protecting your members from unnecessary regulations l will remember that when dues are due next year.
  • @APbbb
    Our club applied for a FRIA last year. We keep checking on the status to find NO FRIA applications have even been reviewed yet. Ridiculous! Of course govt can't keep its own timelines...but watch what happens if you file your taxes a day late...
  • @christi_L
    BS is the perfect name for this product.
  • @su_K3N
    If this is a real safety concern these should be provided by the faa for free.
  • @slapdat.byteme
    Very cool to see the RID module I’ll never buy, never use, and never miss. 😎
  • @spartan3299
    We already have comprehensive and robust sensors and in-flight data logging called telemetry. Telemetry is one of the great RC innovations that drew me back into RC motor gliding, multi-rotors, and FPV after a long hiatus from my favorite hobby. I had always been intrigued by telemetry from the time of the Apollo missions, all those monitors at mission control, the antenna field allowing bi-directional control and sensing. Telemetry helped make me more connected to my craft and improve its safety. And the RC hobby has obvious and overwhelming evidence, dare I say proof of its safety. As a safety officer, I found it pretty difficult finding a dozen incidents to study. Ok my concern primarily is directed at the lack of evidence that model aircraft have been or are now a threat to life, limb, security, privacy, the environment, safety....you name it. Where are the NTSB reports that drive such promulgation of rules, laws and restrictions replacing the common sense and best practices in our hobby that have made it the safest form of aviation since aviation was a thing. Congress didn't demand Remote ID. It demanded a safe and secure airspace. FAA, NTSB please rank statistically the threats to life, limb, family security and attack those with smart people, teams, tech, innovation, education, public awareness, demonstrations etc.. Off the top of my head...The aging transportation infrastructure, Continuing to allow high speed ground vehicles to share the same lane with those driving a speed limit and other ground transportation issues that hourly and actually and statistically injure and kill our family members and friends. In aviation do the same ranking, own it, change it, and start now. Damn the red tape. Listen to those innovative flight instructors who aren’t waiting on slow bureaucracy and who are currently teaching pilots how best not to die and or kill those on the ground. Also FAA, Please move your airspace up and out of our Living space, where we breath and work and play football, fly kites, and yes fly our balsa and plastic model aircraft. How much of our tax dollars over how many decades did the FAA and others spend in noise abatement. And now you trade that effort for lucrative industry visions of aviation nirvana involving swarms of noisy multi-rotors streaming overhead. Again , please move your airspace up above our living spaces. Altitude equals options….and time to assess systems, to evaluate choices, to prepare crew and passengers, time to make calculated decisions, prepare responders, allows increased range to the best landing place that avoids those living and working in their rightful airspace. Except for emergency, approach and the pattern, manned and unmanned commercial craft benefit from increased altitude. Ground dwellers benefit from the lower noise levels and yes allow model aviators generous space to fly their balsa and plastic creations while passing knowledge of such to the upcoming generation. Knowledge that includes safety, responsibility of our actions, following reasonable rules. Flight training involves all of these and so much more. We practice responses to occurrences that are common to flight. We learn about how weather affects flight and our decision to fly or not to. We also want national security, privacy and safety. We look out for one another and pull aside those who practice risky behavior. We do this to protect people, and also to protect the right and privilege to engage in such a great hobby and sport at all the various locations that are appropriate for flying whatever class of model. We also always have an eye and ear our for any aircraft that might even be close to colliding with our models. We react early and decisively to avoid any risk or collision. We are adept at this awareness because we practice it often. And as aviation enthusiasts, We notice aircraft, we look out for them, manned or UAV. If we saw someone demonstrating a risky flight we would stop and assess their actions, share our knowledge, and educate. We would inform the proper authorities if we recognized a hint of bad intent. And there is no other group who are better prepared to recognize such threats. Finally implement a reasonable shielded operation plan. Most multi-rotors and model aircraft are flying below cell and water towers, surrounding buildings and even tall trees. And keep manned aircraft above 500ft and 1000-1500 for safety and altitude to have time to act to live. FAA Plans For public safety and noise abatement please push your Airspace up above and out of the human's living and breathing space. After all It is our right to have living space to work, to serve, teach, be family, and enjoy the timeless pursuit of recreation, even flying our kites and model aircraft as for example in Shielded recreational operations . How much of our tax dollars over how many decades has the FAA spent on noise abatement only to dream of running a web of multirotor light to heavy lift aircraft streaming and screaming over our heads. Manned and commercial aircraft will always be needed, but will require separation as well as integration. Separation laterally and in altitude so as to improve the quality of life of the peoples this tech is developed to serve. And separation in altitude and route in case of the eventual aircraft failure, pilot error, bird strike, or medical emergency. In order to give the souls on board and the people below the statistically proven best chance of survival, usable altitude and a safe route are keys to safety. For about 100 years model aviation has been proven to be the safest forms of aviation. And I agree Bad Actors will use drones. They will not display their ID and location. But placing the burden of installing remote devices on their balsa , foam and plastic model planes does not satisfy public safety nor does it improve national security. Primarily and most importantly, modelers use model aviation to teach aeronautics, safety, construction techniques and craftsmanship and as well teach doing no harm and good citizenship.
  • @RC-Flight
    Due too the high cost of these modules and antennas, I’m going to protect mine by completely wrapping it in tin foil, that should do the job!
  • @wearemany73
    Alas, I don’t have or plan to have any spare electricity on my models. 🤷‍♂️
  • @dronetag
    Hey Bruce, thanks a lot for your comment on our latest offering. We completely agree with the points you mentioned. But let us add a few remarks to the discussion. 1) We are working on the transferability between multiple aircraft. It is just something we don't focus on in the early stage. Perhaps, we will release a 3D model that pilots can print / buy and use the Velcro to move the unit around. 2) You don't necessarily need to use the antennas we listed on our e-shop. You can use any copper tube antenna for 2.4 GHz, which most modelers have at home and just buy the GPS antenna of your preference (patch, one with adhesive, or just one that will hang around). Keep in mind that we don't manufacture the antennas and we just resell them. So in reality, we are just covering our costs of repackaging them and managing the inventory + operations. 3) We do believe the $50 mark is feasible. Just not for us as a small company mainly targeting enterprise solutions. If we were able to purchase an inventory of tens of thousands of units, we could do that. But at this stage, there are no guarantees for us in this hobby industry. Let's keep the BS now as a benchmark and maybe someone else might come and beat it with better features and business model. If you have some further questions, speculations or remarks, just reach out to me and I will be glad to transparently discuss intentions and product roadmap. Lukas from Dronetag
  • @MCsCreations
    Oh well. Here we go... Thanks, Bruce! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
  • @MadDragon75
    B.S. is right. 😂 At least they're honest about it.
  • @tedmoss
    That's not an antenna on that module, it is an antenna connector made for use several times before it breaks.
  • @SueMyChin
    Hey Bruce, you should do a review of the mobile phone apps that spoof a remote ID signal. You could set it to broadcast your position without any hardware on your quad or just spoof another location entirely so anyone looking for the pilot is sent somewhere else.
  • @billflynn6903
    I am working hard to be the FIRST American Discovered Without this tech. I have a good Attorney.
  • @sullytrny
    I've got the BS for recreation and the pass through one for a cube orange stem research. Both work perfect, shipping is 20 usd @ 3-5 days to america