Mastering Tesla Superchargers with Rivian

Two important points perhaps missed. 1) On the Tesla site, you should also check the box to display SuperChargers Open to Other EVs, as well as SuperChargers Open to NACS. SuperChargers Open to Other EVs will show the Magic Dock stations, which you can also charge at (and without needing an adapter which no one has right now). And 2) Tesla has a plan for $12.99 per month to get the Tesla kWh rate for non-Teslas. Most people will see that be of value after just 1-2 charges. Do this for month(s) you'll be traveling and in need of the SuperCharger network, then cancel when your trip is done.

Mmm can you compare a EA charger in a similar location? Also, forgot to mention the Tesla Supercharger subscription. How does it integrate with the rivian app?

Good stuff, thanks Ben!

Great job!

I wonder if some of those differences in prices also have to do with how much they have to pay for the lot or other local taxes/utilities.

Thanks Ben. To get around the higher rates, why couldn't we pay for a Supercharging Membership at $12.99 month? It may make sense for some of us. Especially if we are planning long trips away from our level 2 home charger.

Makes sense to upcharge non-Tesla owners for the incredible access Tesla is providing non-Tesla owners.

A neighbor of mine down the ways who own a F150 lightning did some research noticed the same thing. The higher utilized sites are charging much higher per kWh than another one a few miles down the road. The 20 stall site cost difference can be much as 20 cents compared to a 8 stall site. I find that the Tesla App is much more accurate on the cost per kWh than their website, but it does give you an idea what to expect. In his use case, it's cheaper for him to Supercharge after midnight at the 20 stall site even as a non-member for 20 minutes than charging at home. Since he gets off work at 11 pm and passes by it every other day and there's a 24/7 Wawa conveniently located nearby, it's a win win. Majority of the time it's normally cheaper to charge at home than to DC fast charge, but there some outliers out there that you can take advantage of it. Carpe Diem...

Hey Ben, thanks for the video. I was wondering if you have had any major issues with your Rivian after you got those initial ones fixed? Thx!

Where oh where can I purchase this adapter?! I have a 2024 Chevy Blazer EV. Please help.

Anyone using their Ford or even Rivian etc for ride sharing other high mileage stuff will want to pay the subscription for better rates obviously whoa🤯

That’s interesting about the non-Tesla tax. Do you think this will improve over time? Where the price differential gets smaller and maybe goes away entirely? It’s just more revenue for Tesla if everyone goes to them for charging.

If a F-150 Lightning gets about 2.4 miles per kWh and my current gas powered F-150 gets 20mph. Then I need to buy 8.3 kWh to go the same 20 miles. According to these prices that is like $4.9 - $5.8 a gallon. I’m not sure what gas costs in CA but that would mean there is 0 savings to use electric. So why not save the hassle and just burn gas or get a Hybrid like the Ram Charger 1500?

The price difference is because Tesla owners paid for the supercharger network by purchasing a Tesla. This is a way to make it fair to them. You can get the same price by the $12.99 per month membership, just like EA and EV go have their own memberships. The Tesla membership pays for itself after just one charge. Their prices are a lot cheaper than EA or EVgo with the membership, even if you factor in EA's and EVgo's memberships.

I’ve noticed that the prices have increased quite a bit recently at all supercharger locations. I imagine it might get worse as more non-tesla ev’s get access. I’ve also noticed that Electrify America has raised prices along the route from Vegas to Southern California. I would’ve thought more competition would lower prices.

Integrated Tesla pricing membership into rivian app might be the way to go.

didn't touch on making a Tesla account for better rates, so I wonder what the difference is there

This price difference may also be a reflection of newer congestion pricing Tesla is using.

Hopefully the Tesla will correctly display how many stalls are actually available. 3 non-Tesla’s charging at an 8 stall site will be blocking 6 of the 8 stalls. Not cool for folks enroute on a road trip.

Are those rates even cheaper than gas’s anymore?!?!