You are the Target | James Lindsay | EP 367

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Published 2023-06-15
Ep. 367

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Dr. James Lindsay break down how Marxism evolved from a singular ideology into a genus, spawning many oppressor/oppressed dogmas across modern culture such as equity, critical race theory, and queer theory. They trace these sub-Marxist doctrines back past fundamental narrative into the theological realm, and detail their utility in the acquisition of power. Dr. Peterson and Dr. Lindsay also discuss the Grievance Studies Affair, of which Dr. Lindsay was a co-author and which casts a spotlight on the Marxist capture of our academic and scientific institutions.

An author, mathematician, and political commentator, Dr. James Lindsay has written eight books spanning a range of subjects including education, postmodern theory, and critical race theory. Dr. Lindsay is the founder of New Discourses, an organization dedicated to shining the light of objective truth in subjective darkness. Dr. Lindsay is the co-author of “Cynical Theories: How Activist Scholarship Made Everything about Race, Gender, and Identity―and Why This Harms Everybody” and the author of “Race Marxism,” as well as, “The Marxification of Education.” Dr. Lindsay has been a featured guest on Fox News, Glenn Beck, Joe Rogan, and NPR, and he has spoken at the Oxford Union and the EU Parliament.

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(0:00) Coming up
(0:32) Intro
(1:30) 175 flights, the life of a public speaker
(4:00) The EU speech
(5:06) Why “Woke” is Marxism
(6:27) The relation of Postmodernism and Marxism
(10:14) Marxism is a genus
(11:27) The fundamental core, prince of power
(12:49) Gnostic heresies, the inversion of praxis
(15:24) “There is always a power dynamic”
(20:05) The undercurrent of resentment
(22:31) Cane and Able, second rate sacrifice
(25:41) The demi-urge
(29:42) When the world doesn’t unfold at your feet
(31:17) God demands humility
(32:38) Bitter times
(37:09) Becoming a massage therapist
(41:42) The New Atheist Movement
(42:59) Getting beat by life
(45:08) The Grievance Studies Affair
(48:23) Counting arguments, proving what’s true
(52:15) How a STEM mind aids philosophy
(57:22) Unconstrained creativity
(58:46) Getting around authority, PhD equivalence
(1:01:12) Why provoke academia?
(1:03:43) When an entity stores up value…
(1:04:38) False narrative of antagonism between science and religion
(1:07:54) The power of axioms, the axiom of infinity
(1:08:57) Replacing credentials with DEI statements
(1:11:47) Since publishing the Hoax Papers
(1:13:42) Gratitude is the opposite of bitterness
(1:15:19) Rank ordering students into a privilege caste
(1:17:02) The best camouflage for serpents is compassion
(1:17:43) Measuring predictors of left wing Totalitarianism
(1:20:07) The case for segregating the anonymous online
(1:22:03) Jonah, holding your tongue when you need to speak
(1:26:09) The natural progression of the Marxism genus
(1:29:09) Starting with critical race theory
(1:30:02) Who “they” are behind these movements
(1:31:19) The WEF, the Great Reset
(1:34:40) How tyrants use fear, how to tell a tyrant from a good leader
(1:37:37) The Great Narrative for a Better Future
(1:39:39) Why you can’t have 170 priorities
(1:42:23) What the peasants get
(1:44:23) Cosmic jokes and evil clowns

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All Comments (21)
  • @kristideeley
    I had no idea how badly I wanted this conversation to happen until just now. I am so beyond pleased.
  • @kunipeg8706
    These two men... they just finish each others thoughts and sentences. Just studying both of their work is already a life's work. This need to be a regular podcast. They're providing the tools and weapons to fight this modern insanity.
  • @freethebirds3578
    I'm a Christian and a conservative. I love these conversations, because there are not enough people explaining how all of these ideas mesh and affect our world.
  • @halbodb
    Jordan and James you are the beacons of sanity in the world of clowns and pure evil! Please continue your conversation again and again. 👏👏🙏
  • @copitoh
    The fact that these kinds of conversations are available, for free, one click away, is just astonishing. World-class wisdom at hand. Take it or leave it, but you can't say you don't learn hearing to this. Universities do really have an existential challenge.
  • @gufbrindleback
    Today I watched a discussion on Marxism, by a mathematician and a man in a lobster suit, and it was the best thing I'd seen all day.
  • @maximusf3063
    This was a great discussion, James is so damn brilliant. His ability to connect ideas and recall things with specificity is absolutely incredible to me.
  • @Maridu01
    There is nothing James Lindsay has said or written I haven’t devoured. He is a genius and is changing the world and ridding it of woke one mind at a time. I am eternally grateful to him as I am to Dr. Peterson. This talk was a real gift. They just keep on coming and like that evil will be defeated.
  • @michellet.2432
    Please, PLEASE have Dr. Lindsay on your program again! In the same room, if you can... this was beyond enlightening, it was important! You communicate together so well... it's exciting to hear your thoughts and ideas. Many blessings to you both, and thank you from the bottom of my heart for sharing your knowledge with us all.
  • @km5449
    Whenever I grow weary of being a victim of "gaslighting" in this present culture, I go away, find a quiet place and listen to these 2 brilliant truth tellers. Thank you, gentlemen. Please keep up the great work! The world desperately needs your brave, informed, honest teaching.
  • I feel like we need a part 2 of this episode 😂 there were so many things they talked about and I just wanted them to continue. Hopefully we’ll see these two together soon.
  • @H4ymaker
    I have learned so much listening to this conversation. I have had to stop multiple times and go read and get a firm grasp on post-modernism, which lead me to univocity of being. I went and watched videos of people explaining epistemology and what knowledge is and ideas or subjects that we can or cannot be certain of. Then coming back and listening to this conversation again and again, it just opened up my mind. It was refreshing, like breathing pure clean oxygen, it opened up my senses like smelling salts.
  • @mouse9884
    I LOVE how Mr. Peterson has kept his interviews so casual and more like an actual conversation than an interview. Just a pleasure to be a fly on the wall while two intellectual individuals have a profound discussion on topics that actually matter to the future of humanity, and offers a deeper understanding of the human condition. Thank you.
  • @viperlux
    It really clicked for me when Lindsay said Marxism may very well be an heretical offshoot of Christianity through Hegel and in turn through Marx. That's the religious aspect I've felt all along through these post modern ideologies. I've been learning so much since 2020 and can finally understand and follow these conversations fully. I often get the side eye when I go into these topics because Marxism is very hard to explain and discuss with people without sounding like a lunatic. This has freed my mind.
  • @garagavia
    I'm not a Christian nor a conservative. This kind of conversation is very important to me. We have the responsibility to do what we can to help. We can make it better if we work together, and speak the truth
  • @millerjarrell
    I hope they do more together! Jordan seemed to be enjoying himself a lot during their conversation. Tracing everything back to Hegel and then gnosticism is extremely interesting.
  • @newsound7945
    Im really happy to see Lindsay getting more and more exposure. There are not many people that know as much as him about marxism, gnosticism, wokeism etc.
  • @aaronb.4861
    I cannot state enough just how happy I am to see Dr. Peterson in such a healthy state. This was an absolutely fascinating conversation, and incredibly deep, and he looks to be at the top of his game! :)
  • @defaultytuser
    Whenever I listen to James, I hear a man who is walking a path of wisdom. A journey not without pain, tears and fears, that nonetheless grounds the pilgrim in the peaceful state of presence shared by all who pursue the noblest of causes: truth. May that journey take him to safe havens!
  • @josephl6289
    This man is a great example of what Peterson has been teaching since I can remember: Be a person who takes on your burdens, with responsibility and see what happens. What an awesome success story.