J. Krishnamurti - Ojai 1983 - Conversation with Jonas Salk - What makes us change?
Published 2014-01-06
Summary:
If one has children, will they repeat the same old pattern or will there be a fundamental change in their whole consciousness?
What makes us learn, change?
Is time an enemy or a help?
You are responsible as a human being for the rest of humanity.
Consciousness is not mine, it is the human mind. We are humanity.
The mind that is trained to resolve problems will always find problems. If the brain is not trained to solve problems, it can face problems but is essentially free.
Why should I psychologically record anything?
Identification is a form of self-centred activity.
Compassion cannot be put together by thought.
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All Comments (21)
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K. at 88 years of age here is still extremely sharp mentally. In fact, he remained sharp till his death 3 years later. He freed himself from the inner conflict which excelerates senility, freed himself many decades earlier. No sign of senility even in his last public speech.
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Oh my gosh I’ve been listening to this gentleman for over 10 years and I’ve been in recovery for alcohol addiction for longer and there’s always this message of I couldn’t get better till I hit my bottom or they will say well you’re not ready you haven’t suffered enough I am so grateful that I’ve let go of every belief system and stop joining organizations and institutions
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To die to all the things we are attached to.
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This is like the the sun, giving its light unconditionally.
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Jiddu Krishnamurti must become the number one teaching at all schools worldwide.
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"Doubt is an extraordinary thing..."
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A league of extraordinary gentlemen!
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I am enthralled by the discussion of these 2 friends,it seems as though a space opened and enlightenment flew in ,a new focus 4 The. World.
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What a beautiful conversation ❣
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Marvelous talk
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Looking back on this conversation almost 40 years later, K was on point, as usual
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I’m not part of mankind ..I’m mankind ..seems to be most important outcome of this talk.
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A tremendously important talk, great insights!!
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Thank you
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Be the compassion you wish to see in the world.
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14:35 Dr. Salk misses the main point here, that a group identifying itself as "the exceptions" or the "more evolved" creates another tribal split from mankind and further perpetuates division. Krishnamurti was right to retort that this is an age old excuse of the politician and priest. Krishnamurti clarifies this even more explicitly at 52:59 and his reply to 58:40. Overall, it seems Salk "agreed" throughout the entire discussion to avoid introspection about his clear sense of entitlement as one of an "exceptional, evolved" class.
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This is gold
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Vontade de abraçar forte a pessoa que disponibilizou esse conteúdo e ainda legendou. Agradeço imensamente.
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Insanely beautiful conversation!
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LOVE