In the Prog Seat: Album War-Yes vs Genesis vs King Crimson vs ELP

Published 2024-04-24

All Comments (21)
  • 1. Close to the Edge 2. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway 3. Brain Salad Surgery 4. Red
  • @gajk041008
    1. Close 2. Brain 3. Lamb 4. Red These are 4 iconic heavy hitters!!
  • @DavysFlicks
    Red is EASILY my most played of the lot. More diverse from rage to beauty. Yet Close To The Edge has pure majesty in sections, The Lamb is the zenith of where Genesis could go with Gabriel's ambitions and Brain Salad is easily the most consistently great ELP project, staying just the right side of overblown. So it's Red for me but - clearly - not really wrong answers here.
  • @SwanShadow
    1. Close To The Edge (weird because I generally prefer Genesis to Yes, but here we are; a perfect prog album) 2. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (love it dearly, but it needed an editor) 3. Brain Salad Surgery (great, but I prefer the two ELP albums that preceded it) 4. Red (a tough fourth place, given that "Starless" is probably my favorite King Crimson track)
  • I'm surprised that most of the panelists expressed a dislike for ELP's "Jerusalem". That song was one of the first things that I heard from ELP and was one of the main songs that drew me into being a fan. Sounded so majestic and beautiful to me back then, and still does. Didn't know it was an authentic old English Church hymn until buying the album and reading the credits. Over the years I've come to find it's placement on the album to be quite clever, too. The album kicks off with this majestic song of faith and English pride, then proceeds with a lot of dark themed material & (sometimes) ominous sounds. "Jerusalem" can almost be taken in an ironic way - a statement of ideals that would seem to be contradicted by the rest of the album, i.e. machines taking over and besting the proud human race.
  • 1. Close to the Edge 2. Red 3. The Lamb Lis Down on Broadway 4. Brain Salad Surgery
  • @shyshift
    Luis, Mike Rutherford didn’t use a Rickenbacker on The Lamb or the show I attended January 22,1975. He played a double neck MicroFret 6 string bass and a 12 string guitar. The bass is tuned an octave below the 12 string i/e Fender Bass VI. That’s how he’s able to play so nimble.
  • @garyjoyce2160
    1- Close 2-brain 3- red. 4- lamb /. However / all 4 great. No wrong answer. đź‘Ťđź’Ż
  • @siribal
    THANK YOU for another fantastic episode, gentlemen!! Taking a seat with you guys in the prog seat is ALWAYS a pleasure. I was only irritated that you picked The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway for Genesis. I love this album too, but I always thought that the two previous records (Selling England By The Pound & Foxtrot) are slightly stronger and more highly regarded. At least over here in Europe and on certain Prog pages in the internet, so that confused me a little bit....but also led to the following idea: to clearify the true number one in Genesis' output, why not making an album wars special episode with Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot, Selling England and The Lamb? I would love to see and hear you guys (and the community) discussing this topic. Putting these four masterpieces into perspective should be fun!! Thanx once again for all the SoT content. Pavlos :)
  • @Rickengeezer
    Love all, have to arrange in order of the percentage of stuff I think could be edited out of the albums without significant loss: 4. Lamb (edits: fair amount of stuff towards the end) 3. Brain Salad edits: Benny, parts of Toccata, a few snippets of Karn, and somebody get Greg Lake a ladder, fer chrissakes) 2. Red (edits: maybe parts of Providence) 1. CTTE (edits: not a freaking second)
  • @joshcreasey
    1. Yes - Close To The Edge 2. King Crimson - Red 3. Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down On Broadwav 4. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery Close To The Edge is nothing but perfection from start to finish. The Lamb has so many great moments and individual tracks, but it's a little disiointed in places. Red, especially the title track and Starless, is a must-have for any prog fan's collection. Brain Salad Surgery, a little like The Lamb, is a bit disjointed in spots. I actually do enjoy Benny The Bouncer with Greg adapting a Cockney accent. Karn Evil 9 is 29+ minutes of some of the band's best playing and Toccata, with the band's arrangement, was way ahead of its time. Great episode, gentlemen!
  • @MrFrostien
    4 Brain Salad Surgery 3 The Lamb Lies down on Brodway 2 Close to the Edge 1 RED
  • Luis Nasser acknowledging his mistake on the song at Yes' show is pure Class. I read that comment last time he mentioned, never thought he would address it. My respect for you grows with every episode. This was a GREAT conversation. As an album Close to the Edge is the best here!
  • @lesblatnyak5947
    I'm proud to say own them all original and wore them out, and still listen to them ✨️🎶✨️ Fifty years for most or more
  • @TheProgCorner
    Four perfect pieces of evidence that there is, in fact, a God. No other explanation for these masterpieces.
  • @DonHornsby
    A wonderful show. And what a great discussion on these magnificent albums. My list: 1. Close To The Edge 2. Brain Salad Surgery 3. Red 4. Lamb (bloated but has it's moments)
  • @sdrandazzo
    All of these are fantastic prog albums. I am guessing that the ITPS gentlemen will favor in this order (total votes), #1 - Yes -CTTE, King Crimson - #2 - Red, #3 - Genesis - Lamb Lies Down and #4 - ELP - Brain Salad Surgery. My personal favorite order would be #1 - Genesis - Lamb, #2 - King Crimson - Red, #3 - Yes - CTTE and then #4 - ELP - Brain Salad Surgery. Would be interesting to see an upcoming episode ranking the Peter Hammill sold albums from all of the ITPS gentlemen.
  • @garyjoyce2160
    Damn good show as usual. Thanks to Pete and his great co hosts đź‘Ťđź’Ż