Forza Motorsport: More Than a Scam

Regarding my videos, they will simply be unlisted and still viewable in a public playlist. The future content will be centered around mostly indie and older racing games. Regarding the drama part of the video: Some people in the comp scene have already commented, but YouTube buries negative comments and so they're not visible. I don't want to abuse my platform and they should at least be able to share their side of the story, so if anyone is interested, I could make a followup covering all their responses on my second channel. Regardless, no side will ever come to an agreement, and it's not possible to provide concrete proof for many of the arguments. UPDATE: followup video https://youtu.be/hT4FW7JusCo

turn 10 hires people who just turned 10

I saw a review for FM that said "If this wasn't the only Motorsport game on Steam, everyone would be playing FM4" and I couldn't agree more.

18:55, Competitve Trackmania had a scandal a bit ago where one of the top all-time players, Riolu, as well as a few others, were caught using slowdown hacks to set world records on thousands of maps (they were caught bc TM's replay system is actually functional despite TMNF being from 2008). Riolu's defense was essentially "I didn't cheat, and what are you going to do? Not believe me?" and assuming his name would stand against the clear evidence against him. Luckily, it did not.

14:18 Say it with me If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing.

Sony would make unethical amounts of money if they released GT7 on steam

Thanks a lot for the mention! The effort seems to be gaining traction, I think we're going to get answers on this problem one way or another.

Turn 10 has successfully made both of us give up on the series and stop making videos.

polyphony/sony could just kill turn10 by bringing gt7 on PC

You taught me how to tune, You taught me how to drive, all while being entertaining. You will be missed.

GTA community is like Forza but even worse: >GTANet circlejerk with headadmin behaving like he's from Resetera >bullshit peddlers like mrbossftw >R* literally doesn't doing community outreach aside of controlled interviews I just wonder what will happen if GTA VI flops

Forza veteran here, completing every title since fm1. Switching to assetto corsa a few years ago, was the best move I made. I'll still play fm7 just for the multiplayer and having populated lobbies. AC and the upcoming AC Evo, will be more than enough.

It's not just misleading. The marketing flat out lied. They claimed they had to rescan the nordschleife and remake every track because the old models weren't detailed enough for the physics. The nordschleife, asside from the trackside detail, is the exact same mesh as FM5

By the way. A small brazillian studio by the name of Reiza Studios managed to get the license of some of the LMDh cars like the Cadillac and BMW and LeMans for their sim-racing title Automobilista 2. Not only they managed to do a very faithful recreation of these cars but also implement the most important aspect of them: the Hybrid system, which is STILL mysteriously absent in FM despite the hybrid system being almost 10 years old at this point and many other titles managing to replicate them. Makes you think

Modern gaming is irredeemable.

This goes beyond simple bad game design this is straight up a crime.

This game being 6 years in "development" is crazy to me. They literally recycled everything from the older Forza titles, added 3 new things and called it a new game. And the worst part is that FM is a current-gen exclusive but it doesn't take advantage of the extra processing power. FH5 on the Xbox Series X looks absolutely gorgeous, but FM manages to look worse than FM5, somehow. Like, how do you manage to make a current-gen game look so bad? They could've released the new FM on past gen too and it would've looked "fine". If the Xbox Series X looked like the trailers and pre-release footage, you could at least excuse it being a current-gen exclusve, but no, it looks like shit. And I don't really mind games being a platform for car advertisement, if it is done right. I would love to see something similar to Need for Speed Porsche, where you actually learn and go trough the history of the brand instead of the game just being blatant advertisement. But that's asking too much from lazy Forza devs who can't be bothered doing something actually cool.

This hatred was built from the ground up 😤

Die-Hard (used to be) Halo fan here. What you described about the Development behind Forza 2023 is EXACTLY what happened with Halo Infinite during development. Now, Microsoft's 18 Month work contract wouldn't be bad for games with short development cycles (1-2 years or so), but when you're dealing with games with YEARS of development already behind their belt (i.e Halo Infinite, Starfield, Forza, etc). It really shows when the new guy has to take 6 months of his 18 contracted just to learn the tools, let alone learn what the previous people were working at. It's a practice that has made me lose my faith in Microsoft and I pray to God the same doesn't happen with the new Horizon 6 or Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024. You made the right decision to leave the Forza community when there's so much better racing games coming out soon with more welcoming communities (GT7 to PC/PSVR, Assetto Corsa Evo, Test Drive Unlimited: Solar Crown, and so on).

6 years ago, as a PlayStation player, I would be kicking myself for not buying an Xbox to play Forza Horizon 4 or Forza Motorsport 7 Now, Im just here giggling at this pathetic excuse of a company with The Crew Motorfest and Gran Turismo 7 doing whatever the hell Forza ISN'T doing.