The Idol: A Boring Attempt At Being Provocative

The fact that Sam Levinson thinks women empowerment only comes from an abused woman being “in control” is deeply disturbing

The fact that this story switched from a tale of “women being abused in Hollywood” to “women are lying about being abused, really enjoy being abused, and the men were the victims the whole time” tells me everything I need to know about the show runner and the Weekend.

Sam Levinson’s track record with placing (fictionalized) minors in overly sexual situations and then writing the minors to be like “I’m so happy and okay with this and am in complete control and totally consenting :D!” Needs to be INVESTIGATED

The twist isn't about empowering women. It's about blaming women for men's bad behavior.

Abel and Sam really took a show about a young women falling prey to the evil and insidious side of the music industry and said “but like……what if she was the abuser all along? And the sex trafficker cult leader? Yeah, he was her victim” Absolute clowns

So a man wanted to use the exploitation of women in the entertainment industry for his own gain, but when it actually focused on the problems that women face, his Itty Bitty masculine pride got hurt and completely ditched the ‘feminist’ outlook for fetishization and sexual abuse. SHOCKING

If you think about it, what happened to The Idol is literally what Amy Seimetz was trying to portray in the show.

it would’ve been interesting if the twist was actually flipped around. Jocelyn thinking she’s in control of everyone around her throughout the beginnings of the show and then the second half of the show is that she’s been manipulated and gaslit this entire time into believing she was taking control of her career and her life but it was actually the other way around. Would’ve been a great commentary on how Hollywood has taken young stars when they’re at their most naive and then they’ve had to fight to truly take control of their career and its creative direction

as a brazilian reviewer/critic said: the show sounds like it was written by a 14 year old who just discovered pornography and wrote a fanfic to impress his friends on how edgy he is

this show is an example of why good writers are needed in the entertainment industry

After reading Petra Collins story about her being dropped of Euphoria dspite being the main inspiration for the series I can only conclude that Sam Levinson is just a hack whose modus operandi is stealing creative ideas from women just to kick them off the projects with the objective of pornify them.

I can only think of how disgusted the original producer must feel about this whole thing, the story she made so twisted and miles away from what she wanted to make, it makes me feel so very sad for her (I completely forgot her name, I'm sorry)

Chloe being underage had no real bearing on the plot. And even worse, they had just showed her naked after revealing that she was only 17. Why does Sam Levinson sexualise teenagers so much?!

I don't see people talk about it enough, but that cult girl who framed Rob for rape together with Xander isn't the first time when Sam Levinson uses one of his female characters for this exact set up, the other time was with Maddy in "Euphoria" who ruined a guy's life to keep Nate out of trouble. Looks like a pattern at this point, and not a good one.

In a very strange way, the original message about how women are treated in Hollywood still works. But instead of getting it from the series, we get it from how Amy Simons was cast out from the project to be replaced by a man, mostly because the series was too "female centered". It's kind of sad to realize that the original show's dark tone would've probably come out of real experiences that Miss Simons has been through inside the cinema industy. But instead, she was silenced, and the story she wrote to express herself was vanished, being reduced to a weird sexual fantasy using dark plot points as a cheap excuse to make it happen.... This sad context around this shitty series just prooves MIss Simons' point... I don't know if I should laugh or cry... heh... let's do both! Let's laugh at Sam Levinson for being such a bad writter and let's cry for Amy Simons for not being able to express herself!

“He’s so rapey” “yeah i kinda like that about him” WHAT? SAM LEVINSON? WHAT?

When a dude keeps telling stories based on the premise, "what if the victim was lying about the abuse to get attention," it's time to cover your drink and locate the exit doors.

The sexually abused young woman was the secret manipulative puppetmaster all along? How original.

the finale feels like sam levinson’s attempt at pointing the finger at “crazy girls” and giving validity to the whole “my ex was a crazy manipulator and a bitch” stereotype and it was just so disappointing for an already horrible show. it feels like sam saying, “look, she really was crazy and lying to manipulate you! women are crazy!” and it’s just so tired at this point.

The idol indeed covers everything wrong with the entertainment industry for young women, just not the way it intended too. It's being outsmarted by its own many flaws.