Nick Bostrom: Simulation and Superintelligence | Lex Fridman Podcast #83

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Published 2020-03-25
Nick Bostrom is a philosopher at University of Oxford and the director of the Future of Humanity Institute. He has worked on fascinating and important ideas in existential risks, simulation hypothesis, human enhancement ethics, and the risks of superintelligent AI systems, including in his book Superintelligence. I can see talking to Nick multiple times on this podcast, many hours each time, but we have to start somewhere.

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EPISODE LINKS:
Nick's website: nickbostrom.com/
Future of Humanity Institute:
- twitter.com/fhioxford
- www.fhi.ox.ac.uk/
Books:
- Superintelligence: amzn.to/2JckX83
Wikipedia:
- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulation_hypothesis
- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_indifference
- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_argument
- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_catastrophic_risk

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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
2:48 - Simulation hypothesis and simulation argument
12:17 - Technologically mature civilizations
15:30 - Case 1: if something kills all possible civilizations
19:08 - Case 2: if we lose interest in creating simulations
22:03 - Consciousness
26:27 - Immersive worlds
28:50 - Experience machine
41:10 - Intelligence and consciousness
48:58 - Weighing probabilities of the simulation argument
1:01:43 - Elaborating on Joe Rogan conversation
1:05:53 - Doomsday argument and anthropic reasoning
1:23:02 - Elon Musk
1:25:26 - What's outside the simulation?
1:29:52 - Superintelligence
1:47:27 - AGI utopia
1:52:41 - Meaning of life

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All Comments (21)
  • @lexfridman
    I really enjoyed this conversation with Nick. Here's the outline: 0:00 - Introduction 2:48 - Simulation hypothesis and simulation argument 12:17 - Technologically mature civilizations 15:30 - Case 1: if something kills all possible civilizations 19:08 - Case 2: if we lose interest in creating simulations 22:03 - Consciousness 26:27 - Immersive worlds 28:50 - Experience machine 41:10 - Intelligence and consciousness 48:58 - Weighing probabilities of the simulation argument 1:01:43 - Elaborating on Joe Rogan conversation 1:05:53 - Doomsday argument and anthropic reasoning 1:23:02 - Elon Musk 1:25:26 - What's outside the simulation? 1:29:52 - Superintelligence 1:47:27 - AGI utopia 1:52:41 - Meaning of life
  • @TopsideXP
    There's too much going on in AI right now, bring this man back on the podcast!
  • @seifyk
    This is the conversation we're all subbed for.
  • @jimcarter6669
    This guy is my new favorite interviewer. He is great to listen to if you want to really follow every word or just some bits and pieces while you fall asleep. His pace and tone are absolutely wonderful to hear. He allows the guest talk and then asks pertinent questions. Most excellent job. Thank you!
  • @alainlenoach754
    Nick Bostrom has pioneered so many concepts that we now realize are crucial (existential risks, superintelligence, instrumental convergence...). I would love to see him distill his deep insights on AI in a second round!
  • @Dazzer1234567
    I've heard all these arguments many times before, but Nick is still one of my favorite people to listen to .............
  • @autodidact2289
    Lex, I wanted to take a moment to thank you for posting your interview with Bostrom. I would have never had access to that information or dialogue on my own, so I wanted very much to complement the work your are doing and the effort you put forth.
  • @ofamecoasta5310
    Honestly, your podcast line up is essentially my ideal dinner party. So many among guests
  • 5 am, birds chirping, racing mind, and the inability to sleep. Ahh, what a perfectly timed video to stumble upon.
  • @benglassop
    You could measure the speed of light from how fast I clicked on this. Lex you are the premier intellectual interviewer of this generation. Phenomenal individual & good hearted human
  • @prestonbane4176
    Both these SOB's having this conversation in their second language 🙌💪
  • @23BET23
    You have the nicest and most honest introduction you always use - I never skip around in your talks bc you never randomly break the flow to plug something. You're appreciated! Thanks for that and the content. Be it Chomsky, Vitalik, Tegmark... so on and so forth.
  • @sinking1902
    Nick's cranium has optimised itself for computation over the years with some pretty neat cooling solutions. Great podcast.
  • @merlinmystique
    Lex your channel is truly amazing, thank you so much for your work man! In 4 days I'm going to graduate with a thesis about AI and I'm learning so so much thanks to your work, every video you post is a masterpiece, beautiful and easy to follow. In time, I hope to become a professor myself and teach philosophy of technology at University. Thank you again, you are an exemple and people like you make YouTube the wonderful thing it is
  • @pgwargamer
    I can honestly say this was one of the most awesome discussions i have ever listened to in my life. Lex has this incredible ability to ask the perfect questions to allow us to get a glimpse into the minds of these geniuses.
  • @cma-jc9iz
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  • @reality3650
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  • Was anticipating Bostrom's presence on this podcast since an eon. I appreciate the amount of time spent setting clear definitions and enumerating hypotheses but I honestly hoped that this conversation would've delved much deeper and would've generated many more grand open questions for everyone, including both of them. Since Lex has always been asking the question of simulations to interested guests, I am just assuming that there will be a further follow-up podcast with Nick which will commence from where you don't have to establish firm ground. And also that Lex will impart some accessible insights from his research to the guests so that their thinking can be more inter-disciplinary leading to generation of even greater holistic ideas.