How Rainbow Ruined Valtor

omg, theres such an easy way for them to explain valtor coming back. bloom didnt fully achieve enchantix in season 3 iirc, so her snuffing out valtors piece of the dragon flame with the fairy dust mightve not fully worked, and thus there is a veryyy small portion of valtors dragon flame left which renders him much weaker than he was in season 3, but still able to pose a threat. and then when he's brought back his mission is to regain his power using the stars or whatever because we need a mcguffin i guess. boom, a way to bring back valtor that makes sense (to me at least lol)

It's important to mention that it is NOT Nickelodeon's fault that the show became childish. Straffi said that HE was the one who made the decision, not Nickelodeon. People should stop blaming Nickelodeon for that (there are PLENTY of other reasons to dislike them).

See a potential way they could've justified Valtor/Baltor staying in his lair and giving orders to minions could've been maybe his experience against the Winx back in the day has humbled him a bit so he decides to play it safer and remain in the shadows until he's ready to confront Bloom again in person. This also could've kept his ego in tact too because what's more egotistical than a villain who can't accept defeat. He could be like 'i'm not hiding because i'm scared. I'm staying out of sight for now, until i'm ready to attack on my terms.' Or something to that effect. One thing i liked about Valtor/Baltor (i grew up with 4Kids so i'm using both names) was in Season 3 despite his ego he would also acknowledge when someone had beaten him. Like there was a level of polliteness to him too. So he could always play off him hiding in his lair as 'i'm just biding my time because i already learned my lesson before.' If that makes sense. Edit: heck maybe even have it where he isn't fully corporeal, and is still weakened from his last fight with Bloom. Similar to The First Evil from Buffy, it's non-corporeal so it can't directly attack alone. Or maybe he can temporarily become corporeal but due to him still being quite weak from Season 3, it takes allot of power that means he has to take time to recharge. Since he has the Dragon Flame he wouldn't need to go looking for an alternate power source or pollution, like Tritanous, all he has to do is wait for it to recharge. And maybe that could be the reason he targets the stars, maybe those can help him recharge faster but he still needs a break.

Nice video🙂👍 Yeah , Valtor in Season 3 is the best villain on winx club and it was shame what they did to him . S8 Valtor is basically just generic villain boss who doesn't nothing much and feel nothing to OG . Fate Valtor while alright antagonist in S2 , is still underwhelmed and his defeat were bad . We pretty much already know the only reason they bought back Valtor is because he's the most popular villain character and pretty much shoved him in without any reason aside being popular to fans .

missed opportunity to have some small part of the darkened dragon fire flee, and eventually find his way to Darkar's Citadel, where the Shadow Phoenix is trying to resurrect himself. Valtor then absorbs the dark fire, regaining his physical form and becoming much stronger. Then they could have Darkar's spirit temporarily side with the Winx to stop him so he can take back his power, and then give him some half-assed backstory and redemption arc.

The Shaman Witch should have been the main villain in Winx Club Season 8 instead of Valtor in fact I also wished the story of Icy's fallen Kingdom of Dyamond has been used in this Season too instead of being abandon.

Valtor was my favorite villain from my favorite season

Valtor used to generally scare me... still gives horror vibes

Seeing the dubs of valtor makes me happy that the brazilian voice actor did a WONDERFUL job

valtor looks like alucard and dracula from castlevania like father like son.

I’d say best way to write these changes is to say due to Bloom’s enchantix being incomplete, her fairy dust couldn’t completely snuff out Valtor’s dragon flame and while it did put him out of commission and possibly consciousness for a while, he’s been spending the past few years pulling himself together but has only managed to become a spirt of sorts. Then one day the Star prince comes and Valtor does what he does best manipulate him into giving the wizard a physical body in exchange for his help in overthrowing his sister. As for his lack of involvement you could say that Valtor’s new body is limited in its magic usage and could risk becoming a spirit once more , so he has to be more of a background boss until he captures this season’s macguffin to get himself up to full power.

I'm so used to the 4Kids dub for Valtor that I feel that that voice fits him more, but to each their own.

Valtor was formidable always doing way better than the trix against the winx in their magic winx form and with every fight they grew stronger with enchantix, i know season 8 is winx original continuation but i hate it so much bcs they forgot that winx fans are older and getting more fans through childish style was so bad and than they made fate which was a miss.

I mean, S8 Valtor is still better than Darkar (I know many like him, but I don't because he doesn't do anything until the last episode), Selina, Acheron, Kalshara and Brafilius. He's about on par with Tritannus. He DOES go out to do stuff on his own occasionally. He's not a complete idiot with dumb plans. The volcano episode was actually a highlight for me because he was manipulative and wise. In fact, seeing Valtor being actually himself in that episode made me think: "if he was written like this throughout the entire season, I don't think many would've hated him". So yeah, a noticable downgrade from his amazing S3 self, but... not bad. Much like the villain, people consider S8 the best thing in the series since S5. I think I like WoW more, but WoW had its own issues (pacing, a repetitive nature and no stakes). But all in all, S8 was an improvement from the abysmal S6 and 7 (which is still not the standard I hold the series on, but I'll take what I can get). Hopefully the reboot is good.

This video just speaks facts I can confirm 100 %

I would love to see more winx club analysis. Maybe based off of the relationships in winx club (Aisha and Nabu are definitely my favorite couple) or What you're looking for in the new Winx Club season/reboot.

3:13 INFERIOR Fan Favourite Forms of Enchantix & Sirenix (& yes, even the Sirenix forms, I don’t actually care for - hot take as that may be). Only things I liked about reboot Enchantix was the gloves & sandals.

Found you through YT Recommendations. And...if I maybe frank...It was nice to hear you talk about one of my favorite childhood shows. And here is a interesting fact about my country. The Hungarian Dub version of Season 3 has two different versions. The RTL Klub/Cartoon Network version, which is presumingly was dubbed from the Cinélume or Rai Dub. And of course, the Nickelodeon Dub.

Yay! I must remember the Walmart version of Valtor from Fate, he's different from Discount Valtor in Season 8! They also turned Tritannus into a discount Anakin from Star Wars, a whiney brat!

Personally, I love Sean's voice