Godwyn's Sun Realm Resurrection - Elden Ring Lore and Theory Part 1

"Ah, mighty dragon. Thou art a TRUE-born heir...oh KINDRED." Always was weird how nobody talks about that.

Godwyn and Messmer were the two sides to the Lands Between "Dance of Dragons", and while Godwyns way was accepted, Messmers Dragon Communion was not

4:37 DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE

Jack, coming out of the gates swinging with this one. You had me on the edge of my seat. This answered so many questions I've had for the game for some time. I was skeptical at first that the Sun Realm was Faram Azula but you've convinced me. I always wondered who the undead we saw raised were, and now it clicks into place with their armor and weapons, they were fighters likely for the 'Sun Realm', as we know their are humans depicted in the statues of Faram Azula, alongside the beast-men and dragons. I gotta say this is the first real comprehensive video on Godwyn and its theories and I like how you're not afraid to lean into them. I think a lot of people gloss over how grandiose and inspirational the story of Elden Ring can really be and Godwyn or even Radagon being a dragon feels like a huge and grandiose revelation. As always you brought plenty of awesome speculative evidence from the game itself. Very nice work! This really makes me think what I've posed before, that the Lord of Sotrmveil Castle was sacrificed like how Godwyn was supposed to be, and that's why that giant dead face is down there.

Yes! We haven’t had an in-depth Godwyn Lore ever. Most videos on Godwyn typically retread item descriptions, and avoid any narrative and contextual implications. Even if we may disagree in some aspects, this one is very insightful

This is pretty spicy and I do appreciate confidence when delivering these lore hit pieces - a certain flair, for good measure. It's a lot to process, especially because it deals with things that tend to sit in the back, the so called established facts: Godwyn is just meant to be the golden best boi who dun died badly. So that Godwyn's relevance is entirely centered on his nature after his half-death, which leads to these mute assumptions of (in)significance. And that's why it's always exciting when someone points at the assumed "obvious" and illustrates the case is otherwise. And it starts best with pretty basic questions. Perhaps the perfect one is that used here: asking about Godwyn's parentage, the quickest way for people to realize they have assumptions, rather than answers, that sit quietly in the back of the lore room without anyone having checked their tickets. I also appreciate this more conventional and shorter format, a counterpoint to your more novel approach which I personally have found harder to process (my own problem, of course). Also, as far as the DLC goes (the trailer I mean), I was really intrigued by the "lion" boss more than most things. Not because of its exotic design/skeleton (which is cool), but because the little bros in there can clearly wield golden lightning, which is a very suspicious tool for a culture that precedes Erdtree rule. "Lions" and golden lightning, would you look at that... mhm.

@36:30 "past the hooded statue of Radagon". A statue with the glow of ancient dragon scales radiating out of it. After you convinced me that this hooded figure is Radagon in previous videos I jumped to the conclusion that Radagon must be draconic in some way since his statues sometimes are filled with dragon scales (smithing stones). Considering the Nox created Dragon Kin soldiers with ice lightning.. maybe they kept working on their recipe and added in some smithing stones to eventually forge the mimic tear that would become Radagon.

This is the most thoughtful video about Godwyn, The Golden. Thanks for the video!

Jackious minicous voice is the best bedtime lullby.all while delivering the most insightful lore knolwdge Thank you, Jack, for posting Every single video you upload brings joy to me 🎉

The symbol of the dragon cult, is a city on fire with a dragon crawling up one of its towers. The minor erdtree church has grafted gold braches, with a 1/3 success ratio. No item insinuation any blood relation to Marika. This video has far more evidence for then against, but it takes patience and constant questioning. Amazing video dude. I was under the impression of Marika being Godwyn, but perhaps she usurped his power. Stormcaller church is where ive been telling people a Frankenstein like being comes into play. But not from Godwyn's body, more like a rememberance, used to sculpt a statue of dragon scales, with a regenerative sacred tear at its core, and lightning blessing it back to life. Its the form of Godwyn, but it is somehow Marika/Radagon in the form of a draconian after. I think Sellen's questline is the key, a soul put in another body to stay alive forever. But when the golden order forms via Radagon, law of regression could in this scenario, explain how Radagon can revert to Marika, while always having Marika's soul inside him. This is pretty genious of Marika, because she had someone become a god, who always looked to her as a god that created him.

Godwyn being a dragon himself is an excellent idea, as well as the comparasion between Hoarah Loux/ Godfrey, and Robert Baratheon. The sun realm might have just been the previous (or A previous) installment of the Elden Ring's shape and "power", so the previous Order that was related to Gold, civilization, intelligence, but also life, and death, with Farum Azula as the capital city.

Latching onto your idea that Miquella is the mastermind behind quite a lot of the significant events in the history of Elden Ring including the Night of Black Knives... I had an epiphany... What if Miquella really is trying his best to restore his beloved brother... Messmer. What if the third figure in the Haligtree statue with Miquella and Malenia is their brother Messmer. For Miquella to travel to the Lands of Shadow he deft behind a soulless body. Ranni's soul must occupy a doll to be present in the Lands Between - a body with limitations that must slumber from time to time... The soulless body of a demigod like Godwyn might make a fine vessel for a soul stranded in the Lands of Shadow. My current head cannon is that Marika/Radagon set up the Tarnished banishment/return scheme as a contingency if their demigod children could not manage to slay the Elden Beast. Their preferred plan was for their demigod children to become powerful enough to slay the beast. And now Miquella is coopting the Tarnished as a contingency for his own schemes when his preferred plan failed. Because Miquella requires an actual eclipse (as well as the metaphorical one) to complete his Messmer revival scheme. But Radahn halted the stars. So Miquella sends his undefeated blade to defeat Radahn so the eclipse can occur. After Malenia fails Miquella turns to the Tarnished as a fallback to defeat Radahn. This take feels even more plausible if we consider that Godwyn is not the son of Marika or Radagon. If he's the son of Godfrey and a dragon then he's not even related by blood to Miquella, Malenia, and Messmer. "O brother, lord brother, please die a true death." Miquella's prayer may actually be for his brother stranded in the Land of Shadow... and he may care very little about Godwyn..

Really feel like you found your voice for this video well done jack.

I have a feeling Godwyn will be the actual final boss of the DLC and he will say, "your Elden Ring hand it over, for my femboy's painting". Also I just had a wild idea that why Ranni and Godwyn both died to create the hallowbrand rune is because Godwyn represents the sun and Ranni the moon and together the eclipse! :0 Also, could that painting of that woman in the DLC with that old man be Lansseax and maybe she birthed Godwyn?

I don’t agree with a lot of your theories but you say them with such confidence it’s charming

Mmm, I'm not convinced about this one. It's too based on ifs, headcanons and lack of information. Cool idea, tho.

Cheers to finally finishing it!! 🥂

Amazing. Thank you, truly. I just wanted to mention two little things you might be interested in: in the church/cathedral of dragon communion you can see the ancient dragon fell from the sky and broke into the building, implying the church was already there. That would help more accurately date the destruction of farum azula with regards to the "Norman" or "Fringe" era. Secondly when you were listing off "Norman" castles, there is one location you might want to look at for yourself. The lower sections of the Haligtree, specifically the outer ring of Elphael, is built in Norman style. It is built in a different style than the other rings. The huge, brownish, decorated walls, towers, etc. of the Haligtree (lavishly carved with Miquellan prophecies) is even seen to be built ON TOP of this older, castle-like wall. I noticed this in the area just below the "Drainage Channel" site of grace. Seriously, from one lore nerd to another please check it out.

Ok hear me out. WHAT IF Godwyn and Ranni both were supposed to be apart of the ritual but REVERSED. It was supposed to destroy Ranni's soul and godwyns body. Then it would allow ranni the empyrean to be taken in as a replacement for marika and godwyn the golden would be the new elden lord. Two people one body and an empty shell/puppet like we see marika at the end of rhe game. Ranni would have reasons enchant the knives and mess it up (one is to pretend to do her part and the second would be to get freedom from the erdtree.) Also killing the rebellious Ranni's soul would make her obidient. The black knives had connection to marika after all. But the world didnt know Marika is Radagon so when the ritual gets botched how are they gonna explain it??? They cant so they get hunted down as murderers and eventually spin the block and get beat by a mad blaidd and get my boy iji as revenge for what ranni did. And what if the golden glowing person at the end of tge trailer isnt even miquella Miyazaki said they are related to miquella. What if it is godwyn the golden attemting (or succeeding)to take his body. He would die a true death a be reborn as a new elden lord. A with miquella's power to compel he might be able to maintain control over they consiousness. Or it might be a perfect symbiotic being who knows

Youre videos are always a treat man! Very well made can't wait to see what theories you come up with in the DLC