PETROL 4WD MYTHS BUSTED - are Diesel 4WDs being phased out?

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Published 2024-05-15
Jock & Graham are back with another Beers in the Shed with an age old hot topic that’s sure to stir the pot… PETROL vs DIESEL! ⛽

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A topic of discussion that has been around for DECADES but is becoming even more relevant in today’s world with the rise in petrol 4WDs.

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Jock & Graham go through fuel availability, which fuel is thirstier on your rig & running costs!

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In the past, petrol used to be a bit of a dirty word in the 4WD industry - but what do you think of petrol 4WDs now? Let us know in the comments below!

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All Comments (21)
  • @mrdavebass
    A diesel 30-40 years ago required basically no wiring and had very little emissions gear to strangle it, it’s a totally different story now. A modern diesel has just as much sensitive electronics and wiring to go bad in a water crossing as petrol and blowby combined with EGR and DPFs chokes them up. One other factor is that diesel is a safer fuel to store and carry extra in Jerry cans…
  • @DieselDave
    I'm sold on the 5.6L V8. Previously had a V6 Amarok and loved it too.. Plenty of power still but now, no more DPF burns, AdBlue, turbo lag etc.... just raw, beautiful N/A power!!
  • @BEACHV8
    I’m a convert to petrol. Had nothing but diesels for 30 years and now in a Y62 Patrol. I believe tyre size is most Important. I run 33’s in sand and average 16 on road and 20 off. Towing a 2T trailer up the beach. Power on demand has been a new experience.
  • @craigarnold5654
    Ahhhh father and son back together again they get along so well ❤
  • @davesmith6891
    I own a 92 gq 4.2 efi petrol, my bro in law has a 91 gq 4.2 natural aspirated diesel, when we went to the cape I was using 17L/100 on the highway, he was using 13L/100, yes I have more power than his and used more fuel but my service costs are less than half that of the diesel, so that's a whole lot more petrol to go more places, go the petrols. Bloody great to hear from Graham again, missed ya mate, love ya work keep it up 🍻🍻👍👍🍻🍻
  • @jayd3931
    As someone who has ridden a motorcycle all over and through Australia, petrol definitely isn't an issue. Even the remote stations have it. As you guys saw on your US trip, diesel is non existent off road there, and the tracks are harder than Oz.
  • @VasVN
    I think one of the most common arguments that was missed was longevity of a diesel engine over a petrol engine.
  • I live in Venezuela and here is actually very rare to find diesel vehicles in general, and is no different for 4x4s. For example, all the land cruiser 70 series burn gasoline in inline 6 and v6. They are tough and strong, used and abused every day in any kind of terrain, conditions and distances. Gasoline engines are not bad, is the same with other good 4x4s, I haven´t heard anyone here thinking that they need diesel variants.
  • I just sold 2 diesels, hilux and Mitsubishi. The maintenance on these diesels was just insane. Fuel savings were not enough to justify the maintenance and extra purchase cost. I bought a 4l V6 hilux, maintenance costs have plummeted, and fuel costs are maybe 5% more. Zero turbo lag, plant the foot, and she screams. Never go back to a diesel. Australians have been scammed with diesels.
  • The TB42e 4.2 petrol engine in my dear old GQ Patrol was a cracking good engine. Stunningly good off-road.
  • @shadowdarter
    this time im late, i need to move the beer fridge closer to the computer
  • @davewain363
    It's not about spinning wheels. Diesels traditionally had much more low rev torque which is what you want when hill crawling. And there is plenty of overtaking power in a V6 turbo diesel. Throttle controllers make it even better (for both petrol and diesel).
  • @MUDDABRUDDAS
    THAT WAS ME THAT ROLLED TJE LAND-ROVER IN THE FAILS SEGMENT! I’ve given myself an upper cut thanks Graham!! 😂😂😂
  • @BooF308
    Bigger issue isn't petrol vs diesel. It's about regulating 4wds out of existence for the average Aussie. Costs go up, access goes down, people walk away. As always, it's for our own good.
  • When I bought my first Jeep back in 2014 one of the main reasons was because it was one of the only 4WDs available in petrol. I also worked out that the difference in fuel usage vs the extra cost of the diesel equivalent meant that I'd need to do around 80,000km before the diesel payed itself off. On top of all that, fuel systems on a petrol are a lot less fussy about fuel quality and a heck of a lot cheaper to replace components. I've always said, unless you plan on towing at maximum capacity every day where you want peak torque lower in the revs then you don't need a diesel.
  • In certain outback communities you couldn’t get petrol due to it being sniffed to get a high
  • @whyzed250
    First 4wd was a 90 series prado with the 3.4l 5VZ petrol. Took us everywhere - I never had any issues with the petrol. It was simple and easy. Wouldve gone the same style in the 150 2021 but no choice - ended up with a super complex modern diesel. I'd go back to the old girl if I could buy it new
  • @matbecroft
    I have not paid more that $1.90L for diesel in Western Sydney all year. My modded 100 series with the 1HD-FTE manages an average fuel economy of 10-11L/100. When compared to 16-17L/100 for the V8 and the 24+L/100 for the 1FZ-FE... I think the FTE is still the motor of choice...
  • Australia runs on diesel last time I checked trucks run on diesel