I Can't Play Minecraft Servers - Please HELP...

So yes, heres the situation. $200 to the first person who can solve this problem Join the server with IP here: og-network.net/ Join the discord if you have ANY information at all: discord.gg/G7zq6NPZnM

"Ping: 112783ms" Average Aussie WiFi be like

"Don't make me time your connection to life out" is actually wild

TLDR: MTU size. This explains different devices with same issue, but an older one without. I do hope you see this. I would say try and adjust router settings such as MTU (Maximum transmission unit). This is one of the things ISPs mention changing and often can change remotely for you. From my experience in my country it's sometimes used as a cop-out to shift the work to someone else. "Change the MTU to x, and call us back tomorrow if the issue is the same", then it goes back to Y and then X and it just loops passing the responsibility. However, here it may be something causing an issue. Packet fragmentation when packets are too large, and other things. This would explain (somewhat) why when larger packets of info are being sent the network overwhelms, etc. Older WiFi devices may have different standards, and limit the MTU to the laptop, or something alike. It's all guesswork but I would say log into your router (or routers if there's multiple between your computer to the internet) and adjust the MTU. With an MTU mismatch there can be performance problems or lack of connectivity because some packets that are too big for the receiver to cope with. The "receiver" could be your computer, or another router between your computer and the internet with the issues. You could also try being connected directly to the furthest router (the one closest to your fibre box, adsl box, etc) When a packet is too large for a device it should just be rejected. This means the bigger packets of data including TONS of terrain change etc could be rejected, meanwhile other smaller packets are allowed through - hence you're not just losing connection entirely, but more waiting for a smaller packet of info to come through to not just time out. Mismathed MTUs would explain other devices with the same issue on the network, as well as why an older standard of WiFi could mitigate it - and finally using VPNs and ExitLag (another VPN/proxy solution) may fix it as well - as those can indeed change MTU size for your device or network. They may split a LARGE packet into multiple smaller packets, mitigating the issue. A gaming--centric VPN may use smaller MTU than video and data-centric VPNs. just my 2c :)

AS SOMEONE ELSE WITH THIS EXACT ISSUE, THANK you SO much for bringing this to wider attention I have NEVER found a fix or explanation

As an Australian I can confirm that 250ms is normal ping levels

I live in Australia too, Hypixel literally is a potato, basically all mobs render as armour stands, and I can one shot any mobs without taking a single heart of damage from them.

I had the problem a while ago too. My game was almost unplayable. What I ended up doing was wiping my whole PC clean and redownloading everything VIA backups. My game’s performance increased and I was able to play again.

I'm used to lag, as I play Minecraft on Nintendo Switch, but I've never seen or experienced anything this bad. I am quite sorry for you, and I hope you are able to fix this issue soon.

as a person who lives in the middle of nowhere, i get usually 700 ping average on every game i play. its really not as impossible as people make it out to be, but that really depends on what game im playing honestly. sometimes i have random lag spikes to like 10000 ping, my record actually being over ONE MILLION AND STILL MAINTAINING CONNECTION. even with all of this i dont have this problem. i dont get disconnected im just really slow. edit: by this i dont mean just minecraft i mean every (online) game i play.

I have legitimately never heard of this issue until now. It could in theory be a hardware issue, or a driver issue? I have no idea.

@TheMisterEpic Maybe the problem IS the fact that any modification to the terrain adds to the amount of data a chunk takes to load, meaning that the more a chunk is modified the more lag being in said chunk causes.

I am a server owner myself, and I have constantly noticed players having issues connecting, seeing a lot of join/leaves and what not. Knowing it's NOT just my server, because my host has no idea why it's happening beyond "oh no a connection issue" is really helpful

As an Australian, I assumed this was just a common occurrence, but as you mentioned, i think it's not just internet related. Whenever i join servers I always fall through the world in my first few attempts at joining. Usually it works after a few attempts at joining. I assumed it was because I play on NA servers like Hypixel and PvP legacy, but now both those servers are unplayable Also yes I do get around 210 ping on a good day

I've got a feeling it could be your ISP rate-limiting your speed under load, but not rate-limiting connections to things like the buffer testing so their internet looks like it's better. If that's the case there's very little I could think to do, the best option I can think of would be setting up a personal VPN on a rented server somewhere else meaning it wouldn't be blocked by anti-VPN plugins. Edit: MrEpic has been able to fix the problem and this was not it!

7:00 Here's where I started to think that it might be very closely related to the book chunk ban? as it seems to both be about sending bigger amounts of custom/NBT data to a client, forcing itself to "Connection reset" in both ways.

Whenever I play on my old account these issues always come up. Thanks for notifying mojangs endless list of problems

As someone who gets severe packet loss at times in CS2 as well, I can see why you stumbled upon that subreddit.

If you have multiple users in your discord with similar issues you might do a hardware survey and see if there are any common parts or brands. mobo, cpu, ram, networking card and brand (built in or dedicated), also router type and max frame sizes like someone else suggested.

Sounds like its definitely a network issue, likely with max packet size as others have mentioned. I'd try process of elimination to try hunt down which hop exactly it occurs at. eg. host a server on your PC and connect locally from your brothers to eliminate your home network. If the error persists there's likely a router setting you can change to fix it. If not go one layer out to a nearby friend who uses the same ISP. They will most probably be on the same data centre as you and test if the issue occurs there. At this point its a issue with your ISP so calling them might be your best bet. Any further hops might help you narrow down where exactly the error occurs but it might still be up to your ISP to fix it.