Who were the Minoans? Europe's most bizarre civilization (Extended Version)

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Published 2021-12-21
Who were the Minoans? EXTENDED VERSION
The First Great European Civilization based on the island of Crete.

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All Comments (20)
  • @Replicaate
    Imagine we finally decipher a Linear A tablet and it's just the Minoan version of one of those Roman graffiti walls where people carved stuff like "Marcus is gay" "I made bread" "whose dog keeps taking dumps on my porch!?"
  • @TheAlmightyAss
    The image of Epimetheus getting frustrated at the beach due to his little rock tower is really funny.
  • @mikepette4422
    Imagine landing on those shores before anyone else and seeing a huge island with incredible resources and its all yours ! those first inhabitants must have thought it was heaven
  • @Uberkatze-
    please make more "Extended Versions" they're absolutely amazing
  • I love this time period. So much is unknown that it almost feels like I'm listening to a campfire story.
  • Regarding the Minoan language: The oldest language was a pictographic writing system developed around 2000 BCE known as the Cretan hieroglyphs. Another group of signs was identified as Linear A, developed around 1700 BCE. While Cretan hieroglyphs have a pictorial appearance, Linear A has a linear appearance. It has been speculated that both Cretan hieroglyphs and Linear A represent the same language. Minoan civilization had trade contacts with the advanced Middle Eastern civilizations, with Egypt being the most influential. It is likely that the earliest Minoan writing (Cretan hieroglyphs) was modelled after the Middle Kingdom Egyptian hieroglyphs. Although superficially indeed similar to Egyptian symbols, Cretan Hieroglyphs are clearly distinct in both form and phonetic value. Yet the biggest difference lies in the underlying system itself. Egyptian Hieroglyphs are part of a complex writing system, where most signs have more than one possible reading, dependent on context (similarly to the Japanese Kanji characters). Signs could have both a phonetic (single consonant or syllable) value or an ideogrammatic (word) reading, but could even be utilized as phonetic complements or logograms (a written character that represents a word or phrase, like in Chinese), “reinforcing” the reading of words they were attached to. As many of these duplicities could only be interpreted by a native speaker of Old Egyptian, this system was very difficult to utilize for speakers of foreign languages. Also, the Egyptian system had over 800 different signs, which is an extremely large inventory of symbols compared to Cretan Hieroglyphs (roughly 85 or so different signs are known). Linear A signs identified ranges from 77 to 85 according to different scholars, suggesting that this was a syllabic writing system. Minoan scribes might have took the concept of writing from Egypt, creating their own signs and simplifying the system so that it became almost fully phonetic. Such a low number of individual characters is uncharacteristic of the complex writing systems of the ancient Near East, but it is fully compatible with a simple syllabary (reminiscent of the modern Japanese Hiragana or Katakana writing). Thus, some assume that Cretan Hieroglyphs, similarly to all later Aegean writing systems, were already syllabic in nature. Other scholars see Semitic influences / a relationship to Mesopotamian writings in the Minoan language, but these depend solely on Semitic loanwords, such as “sesame”, a word that appears in both Linear A and B (and also in ENGLISH). One thing is clear: After the rebuilding of the palatial complexes on Crete (with the advent of the so-called “New Palace Period”) the Hieroglyphic script fell out of regular use. A new script has taken its place, called Linear A. The relationship of Linear A and Hieroglyphics is probably comparable to the relation between Egyptian Hieroglyphic and Hieratic/Demotic script. Current available evidence suggests that the underlying system remained essentially the same; it is the shape of signs that suffered profound change due to graphical simplification. Linear A was used much more extensively than Hieroglyphs. Hundreds of clay tablets, inscribed vessels, statues, altarstones and even jewelery testifies its daily use. The triumph of Linear A is also striking in a geographical sense: Wherever Cretan traders went, Linear A followed. Perhaps due to the simplicity of the syllabary, it quickly spread to other regions surrounding Crete. While regularly used on many Aegean islands, sporadic finds suggest that it also reached the Greek mainland as well as the island of Cyprus and the Syrian coast.
  • When I look at the palace of Knossos with the central area, I can’t help but see the labyrinth. I would get lost in a palace with 1000 rooms. And the center courtyard, if used for bull jumping, could easily be the center of the labyrinth. I could see that being turned into some crazy labyrinth with a monstrous bull creature at its center, especially if there was a practice or forcing these captives from the mainland to actually do some bull jumping which is why so many died.
  • @johnny196775
    This is a brilliant idea. Reviewing your own video this way while replying to the most pertinent comments you got on the original and filling us in on the details is something I have never seen before but appreciate highly. Well done.
  • @themangix357
    0:32 "fabulous" as the fab Minoan slowly moves in to frame. Awesome. 😁
  • Ya, Linear A is definitely not deciphered in 2021! It will truly be glorious when Linear A is finally deciphered - I really hope it happens in my lifetime. For sure there is a ‘Rosetta Stone’ somewhere waiting to be discovered. It will be such an exciting day when it’s found - I find the Minoan civilisation to be absolutely captivating 💕
  • Love these extended cuts! Itʻs always fascinating for you to talk about the details of these subjects
  • @cburg6383
    The album 'Dionysus' by 'Dead Can Dance', makes a spectacular backing to your historic commentary on Crete.
  • Man can you imagine a movie based on the high era of the minoan civilization.
  • @Jukozo
    The Minoans have always fascinated me. Love all your videos!
  • @rubiniosity
    That Owl surely is a good Omen, sent by Athena. You´re on the right path, Brother! Keep going!