Putting electric cars to the test. Are we ready for 2035? (Marketplace)
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Published 2024-01-26
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Chapters:
1:51 - Testing range (part one)
3:10 - Testing charging and price
11:17 - Testing range (part two)
13:24 - Testing repairs
18:26 - Speaking with Environment Minister Steven Guilbeault
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FIRST BROADCAST January 26, 2024
All Comments (21)
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One of the worst parts that wasn’t even mentioned was that you need AN APP FOR LIKE EVERY DIFFERENT CHARGER!! Imagine needing that to pump gas?!?? An esso, petro, shell, husky app or you CANT FILL UP!!
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The government needs to mandate billing per kwh. Billing by time is completely unacceptable.
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Say what you will about Teslas (build quality, price, customer service, etc) but they have the most reliable charging network right now, especially if you plan on doing road trips. That was definitely a major factor in why I bought a MY over something like the Leaf or Mach E, etc.
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god I can already picture people fighting over charging stations
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Winter highway battery range test as a standard, legal requirement for auto manufacturers ✅
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It always feels like these ministers have no clue about the edicts they issue.
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There are comments to just "charge from home overnight". With what?...an extension chord from your apartment or house strung down the street to where you found parking? Not every home has a driveway or garage, not every apartment building has parking. A lot of work needs to be done before the date in question. Why not have the entire fleet of government cars EV. Let them try to work out the kinks and see the challenges then perhaps the issues everyday people would be figured out quicker.
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How about interviewing people who represent the vast majority of people who love their evs and have excellent ev ownership experiences. I loved my ford evs, Kia Ev and Tesla ev my wife and I have owned.
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I think the Minister needs to drive an EV in Western Canada during a cold snap when the temperature is below -30 C. Let’s say a trip from BC to Calgary or Calgary to Edmonton.
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charging issues in an "emerging market" is like sitting at a gas station with "no gas"
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Did anyone else notice that there was no mention of how easy and dependable it was to use a Tesla charger. That trip was a farce. Anyone that owns an electric vehicle Knows your range would be cut and make sure they used a charger in between their origin and destination. Personally I drove from St Catharines Ontario to Alamagordo New Mexico and back with no issues along the way except for slowing down to reach my next charger a couple times. On the way back if I thought that would happen I would just program in a closer charger which was very simple. I will agree that public charging stations are charging way too much and no inconsistency in pricing . I know I payed over 5 times what I would pay at home for charging during off peak hours and around 4 time the cost of home charging during on peak hours.
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I live in Illinois and have both a 2023 Model Y and a 2023 Bolt EUV. Only twice have I every had a line at a charger with the Tesla, once during Christmas. Usually I have no issues and there are almost never problems with the chargers having a problem - possibly one bad charger at all out of over a year of trips. This includes driving to Texas once and to Florida another time. The Bolt charges so slow and relies on the CCS network, I don't even bother with it on long trips. However, for around the town trips, or going to St Louis and back, I only need to charge at home. Add up all your visits to the gas station within a 100 miles of your home and nix them from your life. Also, charging at home is so cheap that gas would have to be %1.50/gallon to compete with either the Model Y or the Bolt.
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Wow. And this Environment Minister is making decisions for us all? He is a laughing stock. “Duh, that’s the first time I’ve heard about this”, says Steven Guilbeault. 🤣😂😅 Throw him out!
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Big problem is nonstop headache finding fuel - if u can fill up at home all good. Government is pushing for more ev’s but first thing they need is enough charging stations.
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The video mentions in passing that almost all charging happens at home, but then spends almost the entire video talking about public charging. It also suggests that charging at home is cheap, but takes *hours*. People are generally home for hours, though, making the emphasis in the video inappropriate. It then shares an anecdote about one family on vacation, and about one car awaiting a battery replacement, but doesn't substantiate that these anecdotes are broadly representative of the typical EV buyer's experience. The video suggests that after 2035 people will be required to buy battery electric vehicles, which is false (in addition to millions of second-hand ICE vehicles, new plug-in hybrids that also have engines and gas tanks will also still be available at that time). These elements of the video are more sensational than journalistic, unfortunately. Agreed that not everyone can charge at home. If I owned an apartment and wanted a new car after 2035, I'd likely prefer a plug-in hybrid. If I had a driveway, I'd likely prefer a full battery-electric vehicle. The sky likely won't fall in 2035 (if that date even holds), and this video doesn't do much to identify what it's actually going to be like in 11 years IMO.
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People need to stop and think of the realestate required if all vehicles are electric. A fast charge is still 45 minutes for the equivalent 5 minute fill up of gas. 9 times the amount of charging bays compared to gas filling bays, and that is the fastest charging tech.
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$15/hour charging. How long do they expect people to hang around waiting to charge?
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There is some good information here. Availability and pricing is a very important issue. Using a CHAdeMO charge vehicle, is not a realistic comparison to the majority of BEV vehicles. As there is less availability for those chargers. For winter driving? Could you have mentioned the difference you car having a heat pump would make? Did you research battery per-conditioning? There are practices to learn in using any new vehicle. Your discussion with the minister was interesting, I am not sure how informed he was on the minutia of the matter. Your points on standardized charge prices and a possible practical range listing are important. I plan on purchasing a BEV, but I see that innovation = less freedom when it comes to tech. It is time to regulate the manufacturers to protect the consumer. This carries over to ICE and BEVs. Please do an episode on automotive subscription services and their expense. It makes me wonder if I really own the car I "buy".
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The Canadian public would like to see choices in the type of vehicle we drive we would like to see car that have always worked the way they are supposed to work. Fill it up and drive it until it's low on fuel and repeat. EVs don't provide this especially in the cold Canadian winters.
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3:55 those "pumps" sure look a lot like diesel generators