John McWhorter: ‘Woke Racism’ Has Betrayed Black America

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Publicado 2021-11-19
Forget Robin DiAngelo, Ibram X. Kendi, and The 1619 Project. Start with ending the drug war, says the Columbia University linguist.
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"The people who are calling themselves black people saviors don't understand this, but they're hurting black people because what they're caught up in is more about virtue signaling to one another than helping people who actually need help."

That's New York Times columnist and Columbia University linguist John McWhorter talking about his best-selling new book Woke Racism: How a New Religion Has Betrayed Black America. He argues that the ideas of Robin DiAngelo, Ibram X. Kendi, and The 1619 Project undermine the success of black people by sharpening racial divides and distracting from actual obstacles to real progress.

His shortlist for what would most help black America? "There should be no war on drugs; society should get behind teaching everybody to read the right way; and we should make solid vocational training as easy to obtain as a college education."

Reason's Nick Gillespie spoke with the 56-year-old McWhorter about what white people get out of cooperating with an ideological agenda that casts them as devils, what black people gain by "performing" victimhood, and what needs to change so that all Americans can get on with creating a more perfect union.

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  • @nerdymidgetkid
    What strikes me about this man is that he answers every question directly and concisely. He has clearly thought through everything that he says and is honest about his conclusions. Very admirable.
  • @williamflusek985
    When McWhorter talks about the issues with reading, it reminds me of when I was teaching remedial algebra while in graduate school. I had a lot of inner city kids in there, most of whom were in a special program and had zero interest in actually learning anything. One young man that was interested would come by my office hours to get help. After a little while, I realized that once we got past the reading of the information and he could see the math problem, he could solve it very quickly. I told him that we needed to find him help with his reading since he had good math skills. A year and a half later, I was in the education building where I was then teaching geometry for elementary school teachers and ran into this young man. He said that he was going to become a teacher because he had seen what a difference a single person can make if they pay attention and care about a student. It always showed me how very important reading was and how much it can hold back kids when they do not learn how to read.
  • @jimr4319
    While I may not always agree with John McWhorter, this man is the quintessential gentleman. What a class act.
  • @timbrady6473
    Wokeism has adopted many aspects of the church of Scientology in the ways that they deal with what is called SP’s .
  • Mcwhorter's skill is that he's very polite. He's a good mediator between people who are irritated with PC culture and people who believe in it.
  • @Andrew_Cotton
    Clearest thinking and most reasonable man in America. "I have a nostalgia for a time I never knew."
  • @leddywood
    Great conversation. It's no wonder the legacy media is on its knees when it won't allow for nuance and discussion on these important issues. Keep the conversation going.
  • @SomeTomfoolery
    Literally everything else aside, John has probably one of my favorite voices. I dunno what it is, but I love listening to him talk.
  • I always breath a sigh of relief when I see this man on the News or a Podcast.... We are all not Crazy! Social Justice is about rights for ALL! Not division of ALL! I know he is a linguist by study, and his language choices are very obvious to me to counter the "woke" or the "extremism" other intellects or media saturated language that is being used. It is like the Media gets together and says "these words are all you can say". And really that is exactly what they do. Every GOOD Fiction Novel needs a verbal narrative! They have written this verbal narrative...Without ANY objection allowed!
  • I have been a huge fan of McWhorter for over a decade, I remember listening to his "great courses: language/linguists something something" It was engaging enough that a couple homework assignments suffered. His current philosophical courage is crucial for modern society. He has always been brilliant, but his mindset is not soaked in victimhood, and I've yet to meet someone who's intelligence thrives under such victim animosity. He is a great role model and seems like a great person to have a beer with. I have a couple questions I would love to ask him one of these days...
  • @gcbaileyiii
    I learned at age 11 in school about the ancient Kingdoms of Africa and never felt my history was not something to be proud of.
  • @AaronMichaelLong
    'Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket'. Eric Hoffer, The Temper of Our Time
  • @kkampy4052
    Nick Gillespie is an excellent interviewer. Can't wait to read John's book.
  • @lindontilson471
    John once again proves why he is such a needed voice of reason in these times
  • @Stukkeman
    How wonderful to listen to someone with a truly informed and thoroughly thought through opinion who can express themselves so clearly.
  • @shawnnorton2674
    Without a doubt one of the best things to happen to me in the last ten years was discovering RedEye on Fox News. I might have never known of these two gentlemen if not for that show. Not to mention so many other people, I’m forever grateful. I might not agree with John on everything but I know he’s open minded enough to engage in conversations on any topic, love Nick also. Last time I saw someone wear so much black clothing was The Ramones, I often think of him as the fifth Ramone. An excellent conversation.
  • @reginaford8575
    Enjoyed this dialogue. As a 67 year old educated black grandmother, I appreciate your deep thought on wokeism. I am one of thise folks that say "NO" often to family, fruends, church members. I have been an active Republican for 30 years and an admirer of Thomas Sowell's writings Readers are leaders!!
  • @j2248
    Can we get John McWhorter and Dave Chappelle together for a conversation? That would be interesting.
  • I wish more people would listen to this guy. It would make this world a much better place.