Part Two: The Jordan Peterson Episode | BEHIND THE BASTARDS

Peterson is a master at building the boat of fascism and then acting with the greatest contempt when you remind him that a built boat will be pushed out to sea and used.

Mentioning that he doesn't follow any of his own rules for good living feels pretty meaningful. Jordan Peterson, from the first time I heard him speak, has always struck me as someone who utterly loathes himself and aspires to instil in others a hatred for everything he hates about himself in the hope that this will somehow transform him into someone who is not those things. He preaches disdain for the 'feminisation' of men and the importance of traditional masculinity while he himself is a soft-spoken, highly emotional person with a voice on the higher end of the traditional male register and, to be blunt, a very twink-y physique. He speaks about the natural order of men being dominant while what little we know about his home life characterises him as someone who constantly tries, but fails, to assert control over his family. He practically worships order, especially 'the natural order', while any time he speaks in a stream-of-consciousness form, it reveals that even he himself can barely make heads or tails of the constant roiling storm of chaos in his own head. Basically it feels like he's a deeply self-loathing individual who has decided to make this the world's problem rather than working on himself.

the medically induced coma detox to me feels like a low effort easy way out scenario. He didn't want to do the work to get clean, he just wanted to go to sleep and wake up a month later without a drug problem.

How could anyone ever take Peterson seriously after hearing that he can't debate anyone he can't punch? That is an open admission of his own inadequacy in the area of debate and rational discourse!

A far superior thinker than JP once wrote: "So many people have been hypnotized by Aristotelian ''yes/ no'' logic to the extent that any step beyond that Bronze Age mythos seems to them a whirling, dizzying plunge into a pit of Chaos and the Dark Night of Nihilism." - Robert Anton Wilson, Quantum Psychology: How Brain Software Programs You & Your World

It's so frustrating that so few people point out that Peterson's infamous claim about the "Chaos Dragon" being female in all ancient myths is proven false much closer than China: in ancient Egypt, a pretty important origin of Western culture to overlook. In Egyptian religion, Chaos was very much masculine, with the male chaos snake-god Apep/Apopis being the antagonist of the Sun god Ra and the also male Seth (brother of Osiris whom he murdered & uncle of Horus) being the separate god of disorder (although he was made a positive god of war later on). Meanwhile, order (as well as law & justice) had a goddess in Maat (a daughter of Ra).

...wait, Ursula isn't the Devouring Mother. Triton is the male version of it.

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In Japan, the Sun is female, the Moon, male, and Chaos male

As someone who has campaigned alonside first natikns people here in Australia for more than three decades, ive been adopted by many families. Its a way of placing you into the familiar and lore systems of the different nations and gives you a giude and relationship to other peoples, lanscapes and animals in the system. It doesnt make you first nations, nor give you the right to ba called as a member of the nation, nor the right to represent, speak on behalf of said peoples. People like peterson dont understandbthe rascism inherent in their actions and the way they use family relations to jusctify their actions.

Peterson's statements about the far right and the "inevitability" of Trump have the ring of the "look what you made us do" angle right wingers sometimes adopt to justify mass shooters and such.

I've always referred to the "intellectual Dark Web," as the "Intellectual Black Hole."

What is it with fascist or dictator types always claiming they dont need sleep?

rationality rules (someone in their patreon to be more specific) coined the term "trojan source" where the speaker quotes a source that ultimately disagrees with them (for instance, creationists love to quote ANY criticism of evolution, but it's usually criticises a specific thing, not the theory)

53:56 I am so glad you brought up the cider. I heard that podcast on Joe Rogan. He claimed that cider had kept him awake for 23 days, he gave that as an excuse for why he sounded so weird on Sam Harris's podcast. I looked up the world record for going without sleep is 11 days and the streak was broken because the guy died.

Mikhaila Peterson: The Devouring Daughter

peterson reminds me quite a bit of the authors of the bell curve, where the whole way through they insist that they aren't standing for any one side and don't support racism or racist readings of their work, but if you actually look at everything they claim and the logical conclusions to those things, it's glaringly obvious that their insistence and offense at the thought is flimsy cover. truly astounding shit.

Peterson's never really told us what his treatment in Russia consisted of - my bet is that he was strapped to a bare wooden bed while three old Russian guys recited Dostoevsky - all at once and all starting from different points in the story. They did this, in Russian, for three weeks until Peterson lapsed into a coma.

Peterson seems to be suffering from, to use Jungian terminology, shadow possession. He grew up protestant, with nightmares of rapturous hellfire destroying the world, and as we see with the way he stuffs his home with communist propaganda specifically because he hates it and "needs to know the enemy", he has a predisposition towards obsession over things that plague him, and, seemingly, tends to end up integrating these things into himself as an escape, attempting to transcend the danger by becoming an authority upon it. As such, he has come to fear the archetypal "judgement" so fundamentally, that he has accepted it as inescapable fact, presumably in some vain hope to lessen it, or at least lessen it's burden upon him psychologically. This is why he's scared of disagreeing outright with people he considers either equals or authorities, but is more than happy to preach and dictate to perceived "lessers", children, women, anyone he can infantilise or patronize, because he's scared of any perceived judgement, and thusly tries to take the place of the judge, in an attempt to transcend the judgement. What he doesn't understand, is that the only way past the judgment arcana, is to judge oneself objectively, by ones own measure, and you'll never be free from judgment until you can accept it, but Jordan continues to hide from it, and the longer he leaves his task undone, the more twisted and deformed from his original ambitions he becomes. He claims suffering is necessary for growth, but won't face himself in that harshest of ways, and how is one to heal themselves without being able to accept the pain of surgery when necessary? What doctor could possibly fix what only we can see, and how could even we fix it, when we're too afraid of what it's presence would imply? to look and understand the injury?

I like that Robert reads the peterson quotes with the cadence of the announcer from soul calibur