The Real Reason Martin Scorsese Is RIGHT About Marvel Movies

he's studied cinema his entire life, made outstanding films, and is highly regarded. apparently that's not enough credit to be able to say "marvel isn't that good" without redditors getting pissed

If you literally lived as long as he did, your whole perspective on cinema would not be the same from just watching movies for the last 20 years, he has so much knowledge of films for nearly 100 years. He has every right to form an opinion on anything on today’s generation of cinema He lived through the black-and-white pictures. He saw everything change. Nobody has the right to say he has no idea what he’s talking about when he literally has been alive for so long and saw History go back-and-forth.

This is why I love A24. They’re not all hits but I love that they’re willing to take a shot and support unique creative stories.

As a superhero & comic fan, I agree with this video. It doesn't seem like he doesn't want Superman at the table, but he also wants the struggling teacher who reconnects with her kid, the horror movie monster, the historical figure, etc. We all need this.

As a Marvel fan, I've been having a hard time telling other fans "Uh, maybe we shouldn't be questioning whether MARTIN SCORSESE knows a thing or two about cinema." Thanks for the vid.

I'm with Marty. Cinema is music. Music is not just classic or jazz or rock or pop or hip-hop or electronic, etc; it's all of it and more. To limit cinema is just "Marvel movies" is like saying "music is just classical".

The reaction of Joker/Arthur Fleck shooting Murray in a cinema was a perfect example why Indie/character driven stories are way stronger. Same goes for "Babylon" Jack Conrad and Manny.

Martin Scorcese is absolutely right about the way movies are made in an assembly line scenario these days. That is what he meant. We can all agree that Blade, The Dark Knight etc. are great movies. He did not say superhero films are a bad genre at all. I mean Scorcese himself basically remakes the same movie over and over, but he does it with passion and in a way that makes you care. He does not have a room of 12 writers fresh out of college.

I don't have any problem with franchises like The MCU, Stars Wars, Disney or The Conjuring Universe. In fact I like them a lot but I definitely agree with people like Martin that cinema should not be just dominated by these franchises, others filmes should also get a chance to shine. That's why I was so happy when movies like Top Gun Maverick 2, Oppenheimer and Barbie were so big in cinema recently.

Scorcese was always right. Just look at how an endless stream of superhero movie has led us. Cinema as a whole is stagnant asf. Nobody wants to take risks. Disney is putting out mediocre remake after mediocre remake, each one performing worse than the last. Everyone wants a franchise that they can milk to death. You have to actually dig through tons of superhero/franchise garbage to find decent movies these days.

At the time Marvel was putting up the numbers , and fanfare was at it's highest. Hardcore MCU fans were never going to try to understand what he was getting at.

I was watching this video about why blockbusters are starting to sucks now, and when they talked about the marvel franchise, they said that the executives actively seek directors that doesn’t have a creative vision and they had so much trouble with Edward wright because he wanted to apply his vision to ant-man so I think that’s an issue right there. It’s ultimately the executives that are in control, not the directors and what the executives want isn’t cinema but franchises design to sell merchandise and it’s affecting the rest of the industry

I could tell the studios were abandoning him when his movie Silence was virtually unpromoted in 2017. I found it to be inspiring and thought-provoking, but mainstream Hollywood swept it under the rug to encourage moviegoers to exclusively attend big-budget blockbusters. It’s too bad that very few movies aimed toward the artsy crowd are made by Hollywood anymore.

Thanks for Martin, Quentin, Nolan , Ridley and all the directors that Really Love The Art of Cinema 🙏🏼

Scorsese is basically arguing that cinema shouldn’t just be saturated with the superhero genre, it should be more varied as a medium. Right now Marvel is in cahoots for over saturation and he was right about that.

I actually didn't get much about Martin's compliments on the MCU but thanks for the clearing it up. I do agree with this. The older I got the more I started to notice comedy or romance films aren't shown in theaters as often as superhero movies and it boggles my mind that Hollywood is relying so much on 2 things. 1, recognizable IP and 2, the superhero genre. They are leaning on to these because of their popularity which sucks because it doesn't give other movie genre and original stories the spotlight. Watching this has really started to make me appreciate the Philippines when it comes to its cinema because here, we're not just releasing superhero or franchises but also our own original films, either romance, comedy or horror. While I was always not a huge fan of my country's filmmaking and storytelling, there is a uniqueness to it and there are some Philippine movies or TV shows that I love. Another great video man.

Of course he's right. A good movie coming out of Hollywood is a miracle today. His movies tend to be always pretty great, don't they? He's one of the people filmmakers will always learn from, for generations to come.

Not gonna lie, the first time I heard him at that time even I was like - okay bro, they're not in the same field as your movies but they're not as bad. But slowly as time passed and Disney-Marvel showed it's true colors + I grew older, I couldn't agree more with him.

Scorsese expanded what I thought cinema could be, partly through his own films (which I love), but even more so through many of the films he's inspired, promoted, and restored. If not for his contributions to the medium, I wouldn't be interested in watching films.

I think the thing with the early phase one Marvel movies is they actually were complete movies within themselves and because you enjoyed that complete movie, the hook at the end that was this little detail that could carry another movie made you want to see the next movie. While the formula has stayed the same, the movies and TV shows have stopped being complete internal experiences that can stand on there own. And there’s just too many of them. Hot take, Marvel TV shows were better when Netflix was handling most of them. Jessica Jones and Daredevil were such good shows because while there wasa the casual implication they were in the same universe as the films, the shows were complete experiences run like TV shows and not like small slices of this big cinema universe.