The Palantiri Explained
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コメント (21)
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Denethor's obsessive and despairing use of the Palantir is maybe the best literary depiction of doom-scrolling.
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Warning: Information sent over the Palantir network may be visible to other users.
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I like Sauron's angry palantir phonecall via Pippin in the books like he's chewing out an employee.
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Re: the strength of Denethor: it is worth noting that when Denethor looks in the stone the last time, he knows where Frodo is with the Ring and he knows what the plan is (having been told by Faramir). Despite being in the process of losing his mind, Sauron does not learn of it. That, IMO, speaks to the strength of Denethor's will. As we are told in the appendix, he and Aragorn were appeared to be as alike as near kindred.
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I think Denethor's "fall" is probably a very sad one. I image that at one time he was a very exceptional leader. Boromir himself was an exceptional leader and so was Faramir.
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The Palantiri are even more interesting than I thought they would be.
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The part where Gandalf first takes the palantir from Pippin is parodied hilariously in Bored of the Rings: "You can't eat it, so you have no use for it."
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In Deep Greek is great. He's clearly super-knowledgeable about the source material, but more than that--he's thoughtful and insightful, almost philosophical.
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This was really well written. The conclusion is the best.
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A brilliantly written and spoken article, Robert.
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Palantiri as a mirror, what a nice take on it! Another great video, please just keep doing it. Thanks!
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You should make a video about Tolkien's relationship to music. He uses music extensively in the Lord of the Rings
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3:20 palantiri “video calls” - now I can only see Aragorn vs Sauron’s battle as a frustrating Zoom call where both are fighting over the screen share function for their duelling PowerPoint presentations 😂
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I love Tolkein how he was
"I dont know how it works!! Thats the end of it"
A pepsi later
"Fine, hand me a pen" -
It doesn’t just video chat?
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Beautifully recounted, beautifully observed. Bravo once again, Robert! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
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I've read LOTR a billion times, but never put together the timing between Pippin looking into the stone of Orthanc, and how Aragorn's using it so quickly after this actually was very important in tricking Sauron into thinking that Aragorn had conquered Isengard and must be the new possessor of the Ring. Such good writing on Tolkien's 's part!
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Around the year 3000 Saruman used his Palentir and upon viewing discovered that not much had changed with men but Numinor was now underwater... Really makes you think
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4:48 and here is me used to thinking that the Ring was unique in how it was impossible to be destroyed by any means but Mount Doom's innards. Now it seems that the Fellowship might have considered taking a whole shopping list of near-indestructible items to the Mount.
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I remember trying to figure out what happened to the seven stones by diving into all the Tolkien books at our library. There was no internet back then and certainly no video as comprehensive as this one!
