The Downfall of David and Dan

That rare moment when the studio wanted to be "faithful" to the source material and the writers wanted a cash grab

The most Game of Thrones moment was when they killed the fanbase overnight. Nobody saw that coming.

The real crime was not handing the show over when GRRM's material ran out. D&D had no right to complain about being fatigued when they could have passed the show over to fresher and more committed writers.

The saddest thing for me is that the cast was so insanely good and talented, every role matched perfectly and the acting was outstanding, I don't even know if a reshoot with different cast would come close to this...

Every time I think "I should rewatch Game of Thrones!" I remember S8 and exactly why I can't rewatch Game of Thrones.

I'm not questioning your writing ability, I'm denying its existence.

Never forget that they didn’t ‘run out of material’ they literally cut about 4 seasons worth of content from the Novels….THAT WERE ALREADY OUT BEFORE SEASON 1 DROPPED. They cut all of Dorne They cut all of Griff story They neutered Danys story to be way less complex They neutered all the prophecies literally None payed off.

I remember back in 2012-2013, D & D were praised as one of the best screenwriters in the world due to the enormous success of the GOT. Little did the audience know back then that the whole success of the show was based on the original source material provided by GRRM.

Bran saying "why do you think i came all this way" is literally the most annoying thing ever

D&D: We are the writers! Tywin: Any men who must say 'We are the writers' are no true writers.

Oh right, how could I forget that being a parent or playing football takes away your ability to enjoy fantasy, one of the most widespread and historically beloved literary genres of all time

They strike me as guys who were well-off in upbringing, allowing them to have connections or entry into hollywood and tv. They have such little talent, I can't imagine that they actually impressed their ways to success. I went to school with a guy of such background. He couldn't write a script or plot to save his life, but was always assuring our professors and classmates in my screen writing classes he was going to Hollywood. I was mind blown when he actually had a movie come out, and it was complete trash....Dude was by far the least talented person i'd ever had classes with and yet the only one that I know of that made it, all because of connections.

"We wanted parents to love it and people who play professional football to love it" WHAT? what the fuck was that supposed to mean?

what should have happened  HBO- “we want 13 seasons” D&d - “we got 8” HBO -“GTFO”

It's kind of satisfying to learn about their downfall but it breaks my heart that they are still working. There are so many young talented writers who are desperate for jobs meanwhile these guys keep messing up and keep getting more opportunities and money.... smh

I find it funny when people assume "parents" don't like fantasy elements in their favorite shows. Like fantasy is a brand new genre only teenagers understand or something. Don't they know about the popularity of "The lord of the rings " back in the day? People have been enjoying fantasy for a long time (since humanity exist, if I have to guess). My love for fantasy started as a teenager in the 80's. I'm now a middle age mom and guess what, fantasy and science fiction are my favorite genres still. They personally know one of the biggest nerds, George Rr Martin, who's kind of old, and they still have this stupid preconceived notion about fantasy?

The success of Got was never thanks to D&D. It's all Martin's work. Without him and the source material they showed complete lack of writing skills. Downfall? Nahhh they were never at the top.

The fact we could have had 13 seasons of this show is probably one of the most depressing things I’ve ever heard...

I remember I found out about David Benioff’s other work when GoT was still in its prime and I found it encouraging like just because you had a few flops doesn’t mean you can’t have success too. I really should have seen it as a warning of what was to come.

They stated that half the reason they wanted to make the show was for the red wedding. They stated how there were individual moments that blew their mind. That’s part of the problem. They didn’t see the whole story. They only saw massive cool looking moments that subverted expectations. They heard Dany burns King’s Landing and only cared about the shocking moment. They didn’t care about developing Dany properly to reach that moment. They didn’t care about any pacing at all. They heard Bran becomes king and didn’t care about showing his true journey to get there. They didn’t care about letting each lord and lady from each house connect with Bran and gain enough respect and trust for him to bend the knee. That’s why it feels undeserving. Literally nobody outside the north had any reason to kneel to Bran. He didn’t do anything for many houses to see but act as night king bait. They heard Arya stops the white walkers and didn’t care about making it believable. They just had her run right by his entire army to kill him, because they didn’t care about anything besides the “wow she stabbed the night king” moment. They heard Jon kills Dany and didn’t care about developing both of them. They are ice and fire. Their romance is what the story was going towards. They didn’t care about the journey for those two. They only cared about the “wow Jon just killed Dany” moment. The red wedding was so impactful because of the story leading up to it. It wasn’t just subverting expectations and being shocking. The story is what everybody on earth cared about most except the writers of the show.