What does the Bible say about Calvinism vs. Arminianism?

WOW. that was the best explanation of the disposition of systematic theology vs biblical theology I have ever heard.. Thank you Mark

As someone searching for truth in this fallen world, thank you! We need more folks like you evangelising truth. God bless you and keep you on your mission

I loved what you said about our identity in Christ. We are to live from the cross not to it. If God calls us righteous, then all who call the redeemed sinners are wrong. I’m not denying sin, but like you said, it’s our identity that’s important. When you were quoting Genesis 1, you missed the most important part of the passage… verse 26 declares that mankind was given dominion (rule) over His creation. That’s the central theme of all the Bible. Without it you can’t possibly understand our purpose in the kingdom. The whole idea has always been that God rules the world using human beings. It’s Christ in us. Not Christ alone and not us alone. God designed it that way and it’s His plan to multiply His image 😅🥳🔥

Thank you

Excellent teaching. Thank you

By belief tends to make me an outsider to both theories. I believe if the word of God says it, it must be true and necessary or it wouldnt have been given to us. If the Bible says to do it you better do it to the best of your ability and not argue over why. If your theology tries to discount this or that your beholden to doctrinal groups and not God.

If everything happens according to God's will as per Calvinism, then a lot of really evil things happen, that God has called sin. This is ridiculous. God tells Adam and Eve, don't eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil and yet He has ordained that they will. Calvinism seems to be making God a liar, because He is telling them to not do something that He knows full well (according to Calvinism) that they have no choice but to do. We can go on and on; if God causes everything that happens, He is causing murder, rape, incest, drug use, drunkenness, lying stealing, sexual immorality, false religions, Satan worship, pedophilia, etc. The God of the Bible is love and calls us NOT to do all these things. Why would He turn around and make us do the very same things He tells us not to do? The Calvinist seems to sink on their own idea of the sovereignty of God. They don't seem to be able to acknowledge that God IN HIS SOVEREIGNTY can choose to give us some degree of free will. That's why there are so many scriptures saying "Whosoever will, may..." Scripture clearly gives us a choice. Follow Christ or not. Repent or not. Obey scripture or not. I believe, based on scripture, that God has given us choices with eternal repercussions, Heaven or Hell. That's why Joshua said choose you this day whom you will serve. I can by God's grace and the help of the Holy Spirit say, "As for me and my household, we will serve the Lord." By the way, yes, it is true; we can't come to Christ unless the Father draws us, but that says "draws us" not makes us a believer. God opens us up to the Good news and then we either say yes or no.

Jesus did it all, Ephesians.

The Great Commission is obviously our primary goal in life. To present the Gospel to everyone and through the regenerating power of the Holy Spirit and praying that they respond. The question is this does God independent of our will save us or do we in some way "cooperate" in our salvation. Any careful reading of the Scriptures explains that God independent of our will saves whom He wants whenever He wants how ever He wants. Romans 9 is very clear about how God independent of our will does what He pleases in the affairs of men. We while operating under what is called free will are doing exactly what God has chosen for us to do. One of the primary examples of that is found in Isaiah chapter 10 starting in verse 5. Isaiah states that the king of Assyria is the rod of His anger, the staff in whose hand is "My indignation". The King many times takes credit for his victories while God states that he is doing exactly what God wants him to do. God states "Shall the axe boast itself against Him that hews with it? Then the saw and the Rod in the same exact language. God pronounces judgement on Israel for their sin using a heathen king who is doing exactly what God wants while all time time moving that king to do God's will, then God judges that King for doing exactly what God is moving Him to do to Israel. Using the example of a drowning man is a poor choice.

Matthew 18:6

What does the Bible say about Jesus Christ? PLAN OF SALVATION: Isa. 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return to the LORD, and he (God) will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. Joh. 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Joh. 3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, verily, verily, I say to you, except a man be born again (spiritually made alive), he cannot see the kingdom of god. Joh. 3:16 For God so loved the world (us), that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish (eternal punishment), but have everlasting life (eternal glory with God). Joh. 3:36 He that believes on the Son (Jesus Christ) has everlasting life: and he that believes not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abides on him. Joh. 5:24 Verily, verily, I (Jesus) say to you, He that hears my word, and believes on him (God) that sent me, has everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death (physical) to life (eternal). Joh. 14:6 Jesus said to him (us), I (God the Son) am the way (salvation), the truth (assurance), and the life (eternal): no man comes to the Father (God the Father), but by me. Rom. 10: 9-10 That if you shall confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and shall believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead, you shall be saved. For with the heart man believes to righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made to salvation. Rom. 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Eph. 2:8-9 For by (God's) grace are are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Tit. 3:5-7 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his (God's) mercy he saved us, by the washing (Christ's blood) of regeneration (spiritually made alive), and renewing of the Holy Spirit. Which he (God) shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior; That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. 1 Joh. 5:11-13 And this is the record, that God has given to us (believers) eternal life, and this life is in his Son (Jesus Christ). He that has the Son has life (eternal); and he that has not the Son of God (does not believe) has not life (eternal). These things have I written to you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may believe (trust) on the name of the Son of God. Rev. 3:20 Behold, I (Jesus) stand at the door (of your heart), and knock: if any man hear my voice (by the Holy Spirit through the Word of God), and open the door (repentant heart), I will come in to him (salvation), and will sup (reveal the Word of God) with him, and he with me (through prayer).

This preacher do not believe the election of God, but Jesus explained how God created men and clearly explained how two kinds of human beings populated the earth in mat 13:24-50.

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He said "Christ died for our sins".... Mark, whose sins? Who is. "our"? When the Apostle Paul said Christ "died for our sins", he was speaking to believers. He was not speaking to the entire world....

The one thing I've learned in respect to election, predestination, sovereignty, etc, is that it really doesn't matter which position people take. To pick any one position means that you are paying attention only to the agreeing passages while excluding all the contradictions. When I discovered the passages related to this doctrine I knew nothing of Calvin. Romans 9 was like a bomb going off to a 15 year old kid who was evangelized by John 3:16. Calvinism is a very distasteful collection of beliefs in a horribly arbitrary and fatalistic. God. This is not the same god as Armenians or any other view. This is why Calvinists are normally arrogant. Their beliefs are much more severe than the average Protestant. In the end, both views are false. We can pray and argue about this subject from now until the cows go home, but they can't be reconciled. If they could, it would have happened. I only look at this stuff cause I'm no longer a christian and old habits die hard. God is indeed the author of confusion. If he wasn't, the church wouldn't look so silly. I did learn a few things from you in this so thanks for the program, but I looked at this stuff for so long it's hard not to seek this subject out. It's amazing that no one in the Southern Baptist churches I attended knew anything at all about this subject.

The Bible says NOTHING about Calvinism and Arminisim.

The difference between Calvin and Arminius is like the difference between Obama and Hillary. Tiny points, but in the same party. The real debate is between Calvinism and the Bible. Calvinism is just gnostic philosophy mixed with some Christian lingo. Calvinism is akin to Hinduism. Steer clear of it!

Weak

Reformed Theology and Calvinism have gotten WAY out of hand. Listeners would be better off listening to Dr. Andy Woods’ Ever Reforming.

Says the man who is unrepentant and unfit to be a pastor for that reason