Cessationism & Premillennialism Don’t Go Together

I hope that, as Pastor Joel gets older and wiser, his beard game improves to where Jeff's is.

Thank you for clipping this part of the interview! God bless you, brother!

So, they DO go together!! You should put a question mark after your title !!!

The blind don’t receive their sight and the dead are not raised. I ask many why this is and they usually grasp at things and say “no one has faith today”. So what they are actually saying is Jesus the Author and finisher of our faith has failed right?

I'm watching from Manila Philippines

I don’t feel like the relationship between Premillenialism and Cessationism in particular was clearly explained. You mentioned Cessationism and defined it, but the connection was never made.

I’ve never encountered a cessationist who was also a preterist. I’m intrigued. I’m not a cessationist, but I am a partial preterist.

I agree. That’s why I’m neither.

I am of the view that world history is following in thousand year blocks the fractal laid out in the seven days of creation. In this model the last days are the last two thousand years since Christ.

Past and future Judgements,,,,,, His Promise doesn't perish,,,,,,The World ages do,,,,,Why would one conflate that?

I agree with you that’s one of the primary reasons I’m not a cessationist

I don't see how this is more a of a problem for cessationism with Premill than with Postmillenialism. I sincerely thought this video had the wrong title when I first read it. 😂 If the last days are ongoing the Gifts must be also; otherwise Joel, Peter and the Holy Spirit seem to have a different idea of 'last days'. This is actually an argument Michael Brown has made during at least one debate and possibly elsewhere. To be fair to both sides, if you as postmill acknowledge 'last days' has different uses then why can it not mean the end of 2nd Temple era here and also refer to the eschaton elsewhere? I can't speak for other premill believers but I don't suppose the world will end in my generation(a common caricature that you mentioned here but as we don't know the day I'd say this makes the most sense in a loosely held premill view that takes Christ seriously on this point) and I do believe in there being a distinction between the last days of the Old Covenant, culminating with the destruction of the temple, and the last days of the world itself.

Also the 2 witnesses

Also, you have to deal with jeremiah 31 in it's entirety, and about 7 others like it in the OT, as well as, you know, revelation., elements melting with fervent heat, etc.Oeverall, Jeffy, this matter and the different views potentially espoused deserve more than the dismissive assurance you exhibit. Greater students have examined this far longer and would appear far less certain, and that advisedly.

That’s why I’m a continuationist 😁

And don't stay and fight for old Jerusalem.

I pray in tongues every day. Its a big help.

Take on Zionism. Its another gospel.

In chapter 24 if they aren't talking about the end of the world then why does he say that many false Christ's will appear, that the sun and the moon will not give their light and then Jesus comes on a cloud and sends his angels to collect his people? Are you guys trying to say that this has already happened? He says it will be like the days of Noah. None of that lines up with what he is saying.

To me it is very simple these gifts will come back in the last days not talking about the Rapture of the church were talking with the last days when the judgments are being given and God is coming back Jesus Christ is coming back to Earth these gifts will come again. These gifts will return. I don't understand your argument I don't think you have thought these things through what is your view on the Rapture of the church?