Animal Minds & Moral Truths: A Conversation with Peter Singer (Episode #342)

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Published 2023-11-27
Sam Harris speaks with Peter Singer about important problems in ethics. They discuss his career as a philosopher, the moral status of non-human animals, the ethics of moral hierarchies, speciesism, the scale of animal suffering, conscientious omnivores, animal experimentation, the tragic case of Sam Bankman-Fried, concerns about Effective Altruism, the problems with focusing on existential risk, the comparative nature of human suffering, the work of Derek Parfit, objective morality, and other topics.

Peter Singer, dubbed “the world’s most influential living philosopher” by The New Yorker, has written, co-authored, edited, or co-edited more than 50 books in over 25 languages, including Practical Ethics, Writings on an Ethical Life, The Life You Can Save, and more. His 1975 book Animal Liberation is often credited with starting the modern animal rights movement. His TED Talk has over 2.25 million views.

Singer was educated at the University of Melbourne and the University of Oxford and is currently the Ira W. DeCamp Professor of Bioethics at Princeton University's Center for Human Values. When not teaching at Princeton, he lives in Melbourne, Australia, with his wife, Renata, with whom he enjoys hiking. He is also the author of Animal Liberation Now: The Definitive Classic Renewed (Harper; May 23, 2023) and The Buddhist and the Ethicist: Conversations on Effective Altruism, Engaged Buddhism, and How to Build a Better World (Shambhala; December 12, 2023).

Website: petersinger.info/

Twitter: @PeterSinger

November 27, 2023

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All Comments (21)
  • @radscorpion8
    We can and should have basic animal rights laws for farm animals. The idea that kicking or throwing a dog down a flight of stairs, for example, provokes so much rage in the minds of the public, while cows, chickens and pigs are subject to extremely painful conditions in their stalls, and extremely painful deaths, just makes no sense whatsoever. This is one of those issues where the public opinion is so irrational you wonder if something is seriouisly mentally wrong with us as a species.
  • Thank you for having this conversation. These are really important questions which get to the heart of our consciousness.
  • @nadoelik
    Thank you for this interview , and shedding some light on the biggest crime ever committed by humanity against sentient beings.
  • @wvhollargirl7549
    I understand all too well the plight of animals in our current first world culture. The more those who are aware educate, the more we can change the culture. Peter Singer is an example of an animal rights hero.
  • @patrowan7206
    I recently watched and listened in horror as a sparrow screamed in agony while being torn apart by a hawk. The sounds were indistinguishable from what a human with a bird's voice might make, and I can no longer dismiss the suffering as that of a lesser being.
  • @Jack458111
    Quit messing around and get Alex O’Connor on the podcast.
  • @evidencebased1
    I was most struck by Sam’s point that the success of the “suffering” experiments depends on how analogous the animal minds are to our own, and if that is the case then how can we say with confidence that we are not torturing them?
  • @antitheistvegan
    Rational skepticism is a natural route to Veganism. I just wish more of us would make the connection.
  • @KellyLCornell
    This is a topic I struggle with so much because it's so important to me but I can hardly even listen to animal welfare conversations because I get so emotional/ enraged.
  • Sam always coming through with the topics I’ve been looking at just when I want them
  • @louisjones2653
    This was a great conversation, I studied some of Singer's work in college and was significantly influenced by it.
  • @drybie
    Thank you. Great discussion.
  • @Jack458111
    Rational Sam Harris fans lose their god damn minds when someone points out how obviously fucked up human treatment of animals is.
  • @hafman715
    Thank you for this. It’s the most neglected aspect of our inhumanity.
  • @blackbeard479
    Peter Singer: DON'T throw another shrimp on the barbie
  • @wade2bosh
    will sam speak out against kosher and halal? - animal torture
  • @Ritch98777
    This is a brilliant conversation - measured arguments and healthy debate
  • @domsnow6418
    I cannot speak for vegans generally but what makes me angry / sad / disappointed is not that people don’t care, but that some come up with the same bad arguments over and over again.
  • @VimDoozy
    It always makes me grin a little when the outro music starts to play as the volume of the guest's voice gradually fades. It's like when an award recipient is taking to long to wrap up their acceptance speech. It's like, "You've had your moment, Peter. Be on your own way."