Gotham Knights Critique - Shadow of the Bat

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Published 2023-06-23
I don’t like Gotham Knights.

It’s a brittle, hollow shell, made cynically, written farcically, engineered poorly, and designed not with FUN in mind, but an always-turning grindstone labeled “Player Engagement.” It’s borderline irredeemable. Nothing about the game is engaging, interesting, unique, or even functional. This was WB Montreal’s opportunity to step out of the shadow of the bat. It should have been better than this.

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TIMESTAMPS

00:00:00 - Introduction
00:07:19 - Cardboard Heroes
00:28:46 - Getting Around
00:42:24 - Fun With Friends
00:53:51 - City of Grind
01:10:23 - Number Go Up
01:24:00 - Three Villains Walk into a Bar
01:39:06 - The One-Two Punch
01:52:05 - Gotham City
02:09:16 - The Court of Owls
02:22:44 - Missing the Point

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FOOTAGE/REFERENCES

1 - Mulderville USA - SDCC 2022 Gotham Knights Patrick Redding:    • SDCC 2022   Gotham knights   Patrick ...  
2 - Screen Rant Plus - Gotham Knights SDCC 2022:    • Gotham Knights: San Diego Comic-Con 2022  
3 - ComicBook.com - Gotham Knights teases new Batman characters, deeper DC story for Bruce Wayne:    • Gotham Knights Tease NEW Batman Chara...  
4 - GG Recon - Gotham Knights Review: www.ggrecon.com/reviews/gotham-knights-review
5 - Tony Guerrero - Patrick Redding Interview: Gotham Knights:    • SDCC 2022: Gotham Knights - Patrick R...  
6 - IGN - Gotham Knights: Creating a more dangerous Harley Quinn:    • Gotham Knights: Creating a More Dange...  
7 - Playstation Lifestyle - Warner Bros. New Projects will have heavy emphasis on live service: www.playstationlifestyle.net/2021/01/25/warner-bro…
8 - Kinda Funny Games - Gotham Knights Review: A big disappointment or just okay?:    • Gotham Knights Reviews: A Big Disappo...  
9 - CBR.com - Gotham Knights: Marty & Redding introduce their surprising and beautiful Gotham City: www.cbr.com/gotham-knights-fleur-marty-patrick-red…
10 - VGC - Warner Bros receives criticism for patenting the Nemesis System: www.videogameschronicle.com/news/warner-bros-recei…
11 - Eurogamer - Naughty Dog says The Last of Us multiplayer game needs "more time": www.eurogamer.net/naughty-dog-says-the-last-of-us-…
12 - LRM Online - America Young and Ann Lemay interview for Gotham Knights SDCC 2022:    • America Young and Ann Lemay Interview...  
13 - Whedonopolis - SDCC 2022: Gotham Knights VG - Ann Lemay (Narrative Director), America Young (Batgirl) P1:    • SDCC 2022:  Gotham Knights VG - Ann L...  
14 - The Games Entertainer - Marvel's Midnight Suns Get to Hunter Room Customization :   • Marvel's Midnight Suns Get to Hunter ...  
15 - DC: Gotham Knights | The Bat Family | Behind the Scenes -    • Gotham Knights | The Batman Family: B...  
16 - DC - Gotham Knights - Court of Owls: Behind The Scenes | DC FanDome 2021:    • Gotham Knights - Court of Owls: Behin...  
17 - Warner Bros. Games UK & Ireland - Gotham Knights | Behind the Scenes:    • Gotham Knights | Behind the Scenes | ...  
18 - Fora.tv - David Haddad: What's next for Warner Bros. :    • David Haddad: What’s Next for Warner ...  
19 - rampage.tv - Gotham Knights| Bugs, Compliations, Funny Moments:    • Video  
20 - MrMattyPlays - The TRUTH behind Xbox, Bethesda & Redfall...:    • The TRUTH Behind Xbox, Bethesda, & Re...  
21 - rampage.tv - Redfall | Bugs Compilation:    • Video  
22 - IGN - Gotham Knights Interview - Summer of Gaming 2022:    • Gotham Knights Interview | Summer of ...  

MUSIC (in order of use)

1 - Kryptos - Titan
2 - Jimmy Svensson - Dark Blood
3 - Michael FK - Innocence
4 - Ikoliks - Hypnotized
5 - Yehezkel Raz - Nightfall Hymn
6 - Tamuz Dekel - Vapor Fingers
7 - Tamuz Dekel - Blue Being
8 - Master Minded - Deep Dive
9 - Sensitive Detective - Clouds (Instrumental Version)
10 - sero - Air
11 - Flint - Too Many Pixels
12 - DJ Taz Rashid - Morning Light
13 - Borrtex - Rising of the Sun
14 - Buddha Kid - Vacuum
15 - iTMR - Fool for You

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All Comments (21)
  • @MontyZander
    Thanks for being here! As always, I'd MASSIVELY appreciate if you liked the video and subscribed to the channel. The next critique will be on something completely different that I've wanted to talk about for a while, but before that there will be another Noobus Humanus and another session of Lore Dump. Subscribe to Lore Dump here: youtube.com/@LoreDump
  • @lewdwig
    Nearly three hours reviewing a game so mediocre that people forgot it existed five minutes after release is what I call dedication.
  • @quasarone3083
    Bruce Wayne suicide bombing the court of owls is the absolute funniest way they could have ended this game
  • @mothersbasement
    The Starbucks down the block from another Starbucks thing is actually quite realistic. In Vancouver there’s two kitty corner to each other at the intersection of Robson and Thurlow
  • @dgamer0949
    What an absolute power play by Monty with releasing this on the 8th year anniversary of Arkham Knight
  • @themadtitan8379
    I remember laughing when I rode the bat cycle for the first time. They added those wind effects to the side of the screen as if you were speeding through the streets of Gotham, but at no point does that thing go past like 20 mph
  • @crapnuggets202
    Jason Todd's hoodie string will never not make me laugh
  • @munkey_nuts
    "...a complicated romantic relationship with Dick" Me too girl.
  • @williamgregg6459
    I wanted to pitch my ingame universe theory for why some of the riddler trophies are easy to come by. In essence, The Riddler doesn't do his own physical labor. He's not going to go schlep across Gotham making and setting up trophy traps. He has henchmen for that. And some henchmen probably just said, "He's not going to notice," and place all of the trophies in easy to reach brainlet places because they just can't be bothered to follow through. Additionally, it would make his frustration make more sense because he designed much harder puzzles and traps, just to have some henchmen say, "Screw this, I'm keeping the cash for the contractors and putting it on a single story building roof." Meanwhile, The Riddler is watching connections to Trophies disappear thinking Batman's getting past insanely deadly obstacles.
  • @supinearcanum
    God, their Jason Todd looks so weird. Why does he look like a football star who walked out of a car accident, stg, he feels like corporate asked "What if Knuckles was a person?"
  • @ouij
    I immediately lost interest in the game when I saw damage numbers in the gameplay trailer. That told me everything I needed to know.
  • @calemr
    So, with the complaint about Cobblepot's sidequests: Anyone else now want a game where you play as a generic henchman for a supervillain? Maybe you could pick up themed tech from your boss, or stolen from other gangs, raising you from "Dude in a yellow and black jacket with a pipe" to "The second in command with his unique Bee Gun and bullet proof bee wings!" or something. Maybe it could be a directed story of promotions and betrayals, or something more open involving factions and choices... Man, it's a real shame I never do anything with my ideas...
  • @emilylogan2379
    I’m confused. Is the new hideout brighter than the bat cave or not?? I wish Alfred would have addressed this
  • @joebardsley8426
    Honestly the moment you said there are ‘eLeMeNtAl’ attacks in a game set in the Batman world I realised how godawful this game must be. Terrific work as always
  • @coolman229
    Arkham Origins was written by freelancers hired from outside the company. I don't know if they were ever brought back but they did incredible work on Origins.
  • @supinearcanum
    You know, there's a kernel of a great story setup in the Freeze stuff and it's a shame they didn't take it. Like, with Victor/Nora broken up because she couldn't forgive his other criminal behaviors and Victor just, staying in his pain, he could be a really cool dark reflection for Todd about being frozen in the worst moments of our suffering and choosing to stay there because we know it vs. taking the harder road to recovery. Or it could make a cool Dick & Barbara story, where the 2 of them talk about their relationship and how it fell apart, and setup for whatever it will look like next in this post Batman world. Like, there's some real meat on those bones they could tap, but they just don't and that's a shame.
  • @dustypaladin9216
    i love how this game is so bad that monty found himself agreeing with the kinds of people who talk about the woke agenda, despite hating those people so much that he had to make absolutly clear he wasnt on the same team with them.
  • @Omegan01
    It might be interesting to have a game or story where Penguin really did just say "ah the hell with it" one day, served his time, and really did get out of the game, only to get pulled into the Batfam shenanigans because...well, you know people, Oswald, you know the people who know the people. Through one clandestine meeting after another he becomes sort of an anti-Jim Gordan, always suspected of playing his own game but never actually doing it. Doesn't have to last forever, of course, but for awhile he serves as a kind of crabby, reluctant uncle to the Batfamily.
  • @DorianKage96
    2:02:10 as a long time external QA tester I can say that most of the developers do not care about our feedback. We are there to find issues, report them and get told "it's fine, no one will notice" and then get blamed when people notice after release.
  • @mrbrookah4117
    There's nothing quite like listening to a video like this and agreeing with every aspect of the critique, especially having worked on Gotham Knights for its entire production. Also, there was a tiny fraction of staff who worked on Origins that also worked on GK.